Between Maynooth and Kilcock.
West of Maynooth.
What's the official status of DART West?
Railway order application due to be submitted in July.
This surely isn't correct? The entire DART fleet will be housed in Kildare?
For someone who's very critical of DART+ West, you have very little knowledge of DART+ West.
the main depot will be in kildare.
the fleet will be stored across various parts of the network when not in use i would imagine.
anyway dart west will be a fantastic success with increased services, removal of level crossings in the long term and all else that will go with it.
Sorry?!
The other poster said the entire fleet for all DART lines will be based in Maynooth, I was just asking if that's true because it seems crazy.
I am not critical of DART+ West, I'm critical of IE and their incompetence. I'm also highly amused by the zeal and slavish devotion of their fanboys on this forum.
None of this is going to happen now. Massive mother-of-all-recessions coming before the end of the year.
Railway Order won't be in until August at the earliest.
There are no macro economic indicators pointing to recession right now. Record income tax receipts, GDP through the roof. Inflation will slow that down but no prospect of a recession and certainly not within 6months time. Recession is at least 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth and we're very far from that
The entire DART fleet will be maintained at the new depot near Kilcock.
There will still be stabling at Bray and Fairview, so they won’t be in Kilcock every night but will rotate.
Now is a relative term.
This thread started in 2009
We would go ahead with this even if there was a recession.
When is public consultation due for the costal south route?
Also when will IÉ place an order for the fleet for the Maynooth line, once a RO is granted?
And any update on the enterprise upgrade scheme?
In the autumn.
Probably, yes.
No.
So what are the planned frequencies for the lines? I can see 12 per hour for the West line but nothing definite for the others, can’t get the PDFs on mobile.
Submission this week.
Going to hope the reference to services operating by 2029 is a typo
It's not a typo
Why would it be a typo? Original unrealistic opening date was 2027. That's not much slippage compared to metrolink
What they state is the potential capacity rather than actual planned frequency.
DART SouthWest:
23 trains per hour in each direction (split between Heuston terminators and those continuing via Phoenix Park tunnel).
DART West:
12 trains per hour in each direction
DART Coastal North:
Drogheda-Donabate to Dublin - 24 trains per hour
Malahide & Portmarnock to Dublin - 30 trains per hour
Clongriffin to Dublin - 36 trains per hour
Howth-Howth Junction - 18 trains per hour
DART Coastal South:
Yet to be published
For DART West?
The original date was 2025. While that was always a fantasy, this is the first mention of 2029 that I've seen
How long does the process of the RO for DART West take?
Approximately 1 year but that's just guess work really
I wonder how this build out will affect services to Maynooth, Dunboyne and PPT during the construction phase; does the existence of the Newcomen line mean that they can do alternative routing for some or all services for parts of that construction period? Or are we facing into a decade of paralysis for the entire rail network around Dublin while this long drawn-out project snails its way to completion?
It's still pretty crap for a project to just electrify existing train lines (should have been done decades ago like the rest of Europe) and add only one new station (which will probably be removed from the project)
So even the earliest piece of DART "+" has now slipped into the 2030s.
Frightfully poor. What's the justification for a basic line upgrade and one new station taking 5+ years to construct?
I agree. 5 years to electrify a line, upgrade the signalling and close a handful of level crossings and provide alternate routes is very long I feel. Did the original DART take that long?
Don’t forget that there is a large depot to be built as well and the entire line has to be resignalled, all of which has to happen while the railway remains fully functioning.
And the Glasnevin station construction / junction realignment will not be particularly simple.
In most countries in developed world you'd be right because they'd have closed level crossings, raised bridges and regularly upgraded signalling but here we'll generally let things rot for 100 years then announce a mega project like dart plus. doing all that stuff in one go instead of using regular maintenance and improvement budgets to gradually upgrade the system
