German inaction
Still, more Russian stuff goes up in flames
Well, in your head anyway to some level of personal pleasure by the looks of it. While your news and views on the actual war are of interest your views on geopolitics are completely one-sided and usually completely wrong.
Because Putin responds so well to any sign of compromise.😂
Macron is following the great French tradtions of defeatism and backstabbing in the hope of returning to an era when France was a great power
As the Bard said
There are more things on heaven and earth, Horatio Dyr, than are dreamt of in your philosophy
“Diplomacy happens only when one side is battered into it”
This is exactly what Putin is going for, batter Ukraine until they sue for peace.
Ha…using the LPR lads as cannot fodder? I can certainly understand the optics of having troops from one of these Russian state-lets been seen to “liberate” one of their own cities (in their view), but throwing them into a grinder to save yourself from losing troops from Russia proper isn’t the smartest move Vlad. They might risk the LPR people (and maybe DPR too) resenting Russian presence. It would possibly rob the Russians of a safe haven in the area, and might even make a Ukrainian counter-offensive into Donbas that bit easier.
Also, could this indicate a worsening shortage of available Russian troops? This was supposed to be an important offensive for them and they outsourced an important task to poorly trained locals.
It isn't possible to have negotiations with proven, ignoble liars.
It's a case of "every fcuking time!".
Of course they need to be humiliated, that's what they've been attempting to do to Ukraine.
Macron has shown himself to be a patsy for Putin, a lapdog. Picture them again at that infamous long table pre invasion and all the speel fed to Macron.
Putin treated him like a fool, but instead of learning, Macron just goes back again & again to be humiliated. That's not diplomacy, it's stupidity surely.
Russia are not complete pariahs and Putin needs to be aware that route still exists.
Maybe you missed it but Russia is a complete pariah. Putin doesn't give a flying fcuk what anyone thinks about "routes" or anything else.
These are Putins lapdogs and patsies
Macron is not one of them
Putin is on the ropes, time to finish him off. Call his bluff and knock him out of the ring I say.
You forgot the 2 most important Russian assets in a generation.
Merkel and Scholz.
Merkel alone was worth more in a year than everyone else combined.
A very sexy bunch, even if I do say so myself
No he doesn't but he still needs an occasional nudge towards the tiny pinprick of light that offers. That's the civilised approach and they'll continue to suggest it even if he's no interest in it.
I'm going to do some supposition here.
Ya know how up North the Unionists are like the MOST BRITISH people in the world? But the English just see them as a complete joke, they barely know the difference between nationalist and unionist. But anyway, they're fools. Like it was similar in Eastern Ukraine with the Russians stirring and stirring non-stop and the dumbest of dumb **** buying into it. Thinking for a second Russia gives a **** about them.
They're fine as cannon fodder. The Russians already cleared out the "local" "leaders" a few years ago. If when this blows over there's a whole area full of Russian people (not idiotic traitorous Russian-speakers) where once it was Ukrainian- and Russian-speaking Ukrainians then it's still a win. These dumb **** were tools and nothing more, whether it was stirring up **** or using them to try and jam up the mincer, they're nothing.
Can you point out where diplomacy has in the last 20 or so years of Putin's leadership of Russia got him to unexpectedly deviate?
He also said, 'There's no trust, No faith, no honesty in men; all perjured, All forsworn, all naught, all dissemblers.' Nursey certainly had Putin's number.
Given how Putin rightly calculated in the past that the West was extremely divided in how they would respond to him diplomacy didn't matter to him. Some sanctions aside they pretty much let him do what he wanted but he spectacularly miscalculated the response to this and just how well his so-called brilliant army would perform when faced with a serious foe so it will need diplomacy to get him out of it.
Russia can neither win nor afford this long-term. At this stage I think he will claim whatever strip of land they can occupy and if Ukraine can minimise that to a sliver for the separatists to scurry off to join their fellow Russians they may well take that in a peace deal.
Putin is increasingly talking like a man who knows he has lost everything. I am convinced that he will be replaced by a more moderate Russian during the summer.
The FSB and power brokers in Russia know that if Russia is to reclaim its place in the world it will need a moderate president. They can not live with universal sanctions long term and it's well they know this.
But isn't that exactly what Macron is doing now, showing division... Let's not humiliate Russia. That's wrong on so many levels, not least of which is that Western support for Ukraine may weaken - his invasion of Ukraine was based in part on this belief - and Macron is feeding his belief this may still be so... maybe a little more barbarism will soften them further.
No. You don't appease a bully when they have their boot at the throat of an innocent party.
since Ireland declared it a genocide it would be wrong to simply watch when Ireland could send weapons
And for those who believe that Putin has any interest in anything which might be labelled 'civilised' when it comes to getting his way, there's fairy dust and unicorn poop.
And if that suggestion means handing him Ukraine as a means of appeasement, Macron and the rest of that lot need their heads examined as well.
He's making an observation, by a country who was involved in two major European in the 20th century, and in the context of a likely final diplomatic outcome. How do you view the end of this?
Again a poster not looking at the dirty world of geopolitics and what is tolerable. It is a game of shady activities and there may not be a perfect solution to this. You seem very irked by people looking at this situation differently. He's not alone in calling for a diplomatic result, even Ukraine have signalled it. How exactly is Macron appeasing Putin, when France have backed all EU sanctions to date and will support more if they decide on them?
The problem for Macron and others is that the Ukrainians place some value in their right to life, to be a free democracy.
That is further compounded by Eastern Europe looking at the issue from that point.
People will talk of the reality of geopolitics etc but they want convenience.
He should learn from history... WW1 ended through diplomacy - WW2 the exact opposite and France has enjoyed many years peace since. I see this war ending when Russia realises its mistake and someone takes out Putin or the Russian army collapses from the effect of sanctions, poor morale and western support for Ukraine. NOT by European leaders prostrating themselves before the bear pleading for them not to be humiliated. Should we plead for a rapist, murder or abuser not to be humiliated? No.
I don't disagree that in an ideal world it might end that way, and it's been suggested more than once, but you can't just hope that it will. As ugly as some some find it it they still have to wave an olive twig at him even if he just ignores it. As for that Macron word, Putin is a dangerous man and who knows what he might do if he feels humiliated and cornered.
Putins most valuable assets right now are Scholz, Macron and Orban. In that order.
Macron and Scholz are giving Puting a lifeline that he otherwise would not have
As someone previously noted, it was Merkel, who was a communist until after the wall fell, that gave Putin everything he needed to launch this invasion.
This is what leads Europe. Common values, eh?
But, isn't a pandered to Putin equally dangerous? Well, they'll let me take Ukraine in fear I'll do something mad... how far can I push these Western weaklings. Question, do you think Putin respects Macron after what he said?
I am sure you do too
Oh I know this one . . .
"Irony" - pertaining to a ferrite substance
I do hope that I haven't achieved a result opposite to the intended one, of providing an accurate definition of "Irony"
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