It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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False and misleading information?
Direct quote from one of your posts.
"Shane McGowan is a frightfully unattractive man whose wife may only be with him for the cash."
False and misleading information.
Even if this grossly contorted view of what I said held, it wouldn't justify personally abusing Tory MPs and Boris Johnson just because they have a different political alignment to others.
...and disparaged Shane McGowan for his looks.
It defunds councils who will have to subsidise photo ID for poorer voters, stealth cuts for Labour councils. It's hassle for voters too.
Look at how the recall up North for Ian Paisley did it. People had to travel to 3 major towns to sign rather than locally at up to 10 centres and still 94% of requirement to recall was met.
That's because there is no momentum.
Fewer MPs are upset with Johnson today than they were 5-months ago. Many MPs are coming out saying how appropriate his addressing the issue today was.
Yeah but if the number of letters just barely reaches the threshold is it likely he would lose the vote? I don't get the sense of a 'Boris must go' banwagon gathering momentum over the report...
Is Brexit really done though?...it's a mess...Northern Ireland especially.
Vaccination programme went great guns at the start but other countries caught up. They wasted an insane amount of money, the track and trace for example a disgrace...not to mention the dodgy dealings on contracts.
He was there for a photo op and they gave them a lot of aid and weaponry...he knew how it would play...I wouldn't call that amazing leadership.
The Standards Committee and Privileges Committee can suspend the PM for 10 days when Parliament’s in session, or 14 days when it’s not and he could then be forced to fight a by-election.
But....
I think this is the source https://twitter.com/CatNeilan/status/1529447754036125698 I saw it in the Guardian earlier. The Telegraph was speculating last night that it might be in the high 40's.
That's what Johnson is banking on. He has literally been found to have broken the law, and it's pretty clear he deliberately misled Parliament. He is supposed to stand down, as all MPs are expected to if found to have deliberately misled Parliament, however there's nothing to actually enforce it. It's a "This is what you're expected to do" rather than "Do it or you're gone". The only thing that can force Johnson out is a vote of no confidence, either by the House as a whole or by enough of his own party. So it all depends on enough Tories siding against him.
It's insane that there may not be enough to do it. Even if for no other reason than it will really become a factor in the next election.
Eskimo, you have said yourself that Johnson has completely failed to deal with the migrant issue, an issue at the very core of Brexit.
So it isn't some others that see him as a failure, you acknowledge that yourself.
The difference is that you are willing to give him yet more chances, based on nothing but his promises and ignoring his multiple failures.
What exactly is evidences separate from opinion, in this case?
Its all bo**ox, The Met and SG both have been gaslighted by the Tories.
BJ has escaped.
But what happens if a PM who is found to have deliberately misled the House refuses to resign and his party's MPs refuse to vote against him? In that case, the ministerial code become unenforceable.
I mean, it's literally in your post above but if you're going to indulge in the conservative tradition of expecting handouts then this is a bit pointless.
Any proof of your claim above or is that nothing?
Nothing then, alright.
Delighted to once you answer all of my pending requests.
Prove it.
Have a read of your post about Keir Starmer as this is a perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black.
this is what I was alluding to earlier. the ruling on the VIP lane only showed that it was technically illegal. The Judge did state that
Campaigners claimed the VIP lane was reserved for referrals from MPs, ministers and senior officials and gave some companies an unfair advantage.
A judge ruled it was unlawful to give the two companies preferential treatment as part of the VIP lane.
But she said both offers were likely to have been given contracts anyway.
so the process was unlawful, as it did not follow the correct procedure. It there was a good law project type political organisation in any other country in the EU, they would have found the same thing, as no one was following proper process at the time. Pretty understandable, I am sure you agree?
I'm going to hand it to you. I think we can all recognize, including me, that you're one of the most consistent posters throughout this thread and you back up your claims in ways that others do not. Consistently wrong, that is.
And the manner in which you "back up" your claims is to always launch personal jibes against Tory MPs, particularly Johnson. You've successfully climbed to the absolute summit of the Ad Hominem mountain, and quite clearly cannot see the wood from the trees.
You need to park your personal attacks against Johnson and Tory MPs and argue the case based on evidence.
I read somewhere on the Guardian today (can't find it now) that it's thought there are now 50 (or maybe 51) of the required 54 "no confidence" letters submitted. He still might be looking somewhat nervously toward the toaster.
I'll be fair, Johnson isn't remotely stupid. He's just wholly corrupt, entitled and has never worked a day in his whole life. Even his hero, Churchill saw plenty of action in the Boer war at the end of the nineteenth century.
Johnson desperately wants to be a good time PM like Tony Blair. Unlike Blair, he doesn't want to invest any effort as he feels entitled to the office. Therefore, he outsources himself to corrupt intellectual nobodies while driving any real talent such as Dominic Grieve and Sir Nicholas Soames out of the party.
This has the side effect of ensuring that they can't outshine him and therefore challenge him. I can't see a single talented lot. In the private sector without connections, morons like Patel, Raab, Sunak, Braverman, Truss and Dorries wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Says the man who compared Marcus Rashford to Jimmy Saville because he engaged in charitable activity.
Eskimo, you seem to think that failure to deal with migrants, and failure to adhere to covid guidelines are completely separate, when in fact they, along with the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan and the massive covid death rate, both are symptoms of the inability of Johnson to do his job.
He isn't a details man. He doesn't care, has no central plan or ideology. Simply being PM is what interests him.
His lack of action over migrants is the same as his lack of action over everything. He always opts to avoid making a decision. Everything is put off until such time as it becomes impossible to avoid.
Brexit is the clearest example. Promises, lack of detail, lack of planning, lack of understanding.
It is who he is.
No need to insult the looks of Tory MPs. Sure, you don't like the Tory Party and describe them as "venal".
But attacking the looks of Tory MPs is not necessary.
🤣🤣🤣 I actually thought the same
I honestly thought he was a Harry Enfield character for a few weeks.
Actually 2 transactions - Owen Paterson resigned as an MP after breaking the lobbying rules for Randox.
Also the entire VIP contract route for politically connected suppliers was ruled unlawful.
Still nothing to see here, move on.
Fine, if you don't want to engage with one of the biggest political issues impacting Boris Johnson's performance as PM, that's your right.
But this thread, entitled "Is the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson toast?", was started on 08 December 2021, at 8:48pm.
That's 6-months of people saying he's toast.
That's some pretty badly burnt toast right there, because as much as you all keep repeating (and hoping!) that Johnson resigns, there is not a whiff of evidence to back that up.
Just wishful thinking from those bent from the hard left.
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