Poland is in the east...and yes it was attacked by the Soviet Union as well.
Thanks for reminding me.
Isn't it weird that one nation can veto another couple of dozen nations foreign policy decisions? I wonder what could cause such a rum state of affairs?
Oh wait....its the EU that causes it.
The Ukrainians never stop impressing me. They are cleaning up and rebuilding almost the second they get into any of their reclaimed territory.
Don't mention the ...
The problem Ukraine will have even if they managed to kick Russia all the way out is they need peace with Russia. If Russia don't come around to some sort of peace talks etc. with Ukraine there won't be much international investment of foreign companies going into Ukraine and setting up shop. All Russia has to keep on doing is say lobbying in 2 or 3 cruise missiles or rockets every day at specific targets. Say for example if Apple or the likes set up a massive industrial complex and said would hire a few thousand Ukrainians and pumped say a billion into this being constructed and then near opening day a Russian cruise missile or a few Russian missiles slam into it and destroy it and same happens on another international company who invested after Russia was fully kicked out. No other foreign companies would invest in Ukraine that way so its a massive deal for Ukraine to eventually come to some sort of peace with Russia as the way I look at it Russia are fucked for probably 20 years after this so if there being isolated and no foreign investment allowed etc into there they might say **** it let's keep this up against Ukraine, fair enough they might have no troops left in Ukraine but if there planes and cruise missiles etc. can still lob stuff hundreds of miles inside Russia Ukraine will not ever be able to properly rebuild over this and foreign companies will not invest there for the same reason.
Captain Russia
If anything I would say the Sony Spiderverse…..
Hitler never wanted war with the west and made many peace overtures to them.The fact of the matter is it was Britain and France who declared war on Germany.
You could state that Germany declared war on the United States,but that was just making it official as the United States was de facto at war with Germany long before Hitler's declaration.
Britain was especially pro Soviet Union even to the point of declaring war on little Finland and even forcing them to pay reparations to the Soviet Union as a condition for a peace agreement....pay hundreds of millions of dollars for the 'crime' of trying to recover their national territory no less!.
Ah, the DC version.
Tin Pot Dictators ASSEMBLE!
Like a really sh1t Avengers…
"Your military's absolute gash."
The yanks are far better and far more reasonable than alternatives like Russia and china I'm glad they are the world power and not vice versa because we would be far worse off for it.
As for Europe stepping up and militarizing not likely there is no patriotism towards Europe by the nations under the flag if it stopped being a benefit most nations would leave it. Like it or lump it the yanks are the best we ve got in terms of world order.
I think all the gas will mean they won’t be completely isolated for the next few decades anyway. It’s just too much of a vital resource.
Even hardcore pro-Russian military bloggers losing patience and demanding answers regarding their military, especially the river crossing disasters (NYT article linked in the tweet)
You don't see any downside risks here?
The days of occupation is over realistically but what will happen to Russia will be far worse complete isolation from the rest of the world and hatred for there people.
And tbh it's well deserved
Any country can be defeated and not - in this day and age- necessarily by conventional war as is going on in Ukraine at the moment
. A defeated country, IMO
, is one that has reduced , zero international influence;
, not powerful enough to invade another country;,
has a very weakened economy, ;
most/ all countries carry’s out little or no business with it,
little or no social interaction
, international flights to and from it kept to a minimum,
membership of all international , including political, security and sports org cancelled,
etc, etc, etc, etc.
SO, YOUDO NOT NEED TANKS/ CONVENTIONAL WAR to achieve the above. Relevant sanctions are the new suite of weapons.
it may take a little longer to achieve one’s aims but there would be little or no deaths, reduced cost of this approach in certain areas eg refugees, concentration of human and other resources more appropriately targeted ie no refugee problem to contend with, no war to fund and all the Human Resources caught up in it, etc
so IMO Russia CAN be defeated
We cannot get back into the weeds of equivocation, here. Russia behave far worse than the USA do, and Eastern Europe's aversion to coming back under the Russian sphere of influence should be taken as testament to this fact. I'll take the U.S. helping keep that at bay all day long even if they're doing other things I don't agree with, like propping up Saudi Arabia or the subjugation of Palestinians. The U.S.'s hegemony is vastly better to be under than the current alternatives on offer. China and Russia can F off away with themselves. The amount of insidious influence they already have in the West is bad enough.
But without the utter failure of the regime what's the impetus for change... answer, there isn't. The reason the USSR changed so much for a period of time, was because the USSR was defeated and humiliated, just not utterly. Anything else will be a half baked reaction.
Do I think Russia will be humiliated... I wouldn't allow them back into the civilised world until they denuke... same as NK. If they don't then... leave them stew.
I hope he gets nothing. It's disgusting really. Would like to see the other countries give up on Hungary, try to get Poland on side to strip their voting rights and then they can be ignored, and the new sanctions "packages" can go through.
The veto on such matters is a curse on the EU also. It is becoming more unsustainable as EU grows in size, and also the environment surrounding the EU members in the wider world seems to get more hostile each year, and needs agile decisions at that level.
It's not the 90s or 00s any more, that is for sure.
Orban well latched onto the EU tit
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/hungary-sanctions-russian-oil-embargo-eu
whilst having no qualms about biting the nipple.
Not particularly.
Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan suffered total defeat and occupation. Russia will not. That is a point of difference.
But the overall point is that countries that had odious regimes can be turned into countries that make a positive contribution to human existence on this planet. They just need help and incentives.
That cannot happen with Russia. The nukes will prevent it. In any case (IMO) it is probably more likely to eventually blow into multiple bits, than hang together as it is today for a dose of "humiliation". Some of those bits could be very poor & weak, but could have control of a load of nasties, nukes, biological weapons, chemical weapons you name it. A gaggle of new Pakistans maybe?? That is not a great/hopeful picture.
The US was very worried about the doomsday weapons of the Soviet Union and put a huge effort into containing them, making sure they didn't proliferate and the weapons know-how remained relatively contained too (keeping the weaponeers/scientists etc. paid and in jobs).
In that case your comparison fails.
This is it. Also the Germans had a historical culture/society to revert to. And some Asian culture is quite different from most of the world when it comes to top-down stuff. Both were comprehensively defeated and given a pretty simple choice. And guess what, they behaved properly for a while and reaped the benefits. What does Russia have to switch to? Go back to famines and food shortages? Keep the paranoia they had since the day of the Czars? It's a criminal enterprise that people hoped might chill the **** out and once welcomed into the fold would benefit from its massive natural resources and geography. They didn't. And anyone pointing it out was a US oil shill or CIA shill.
I'd like if Europe would step up but it won't be happening any time soon. Entire political systems have been shown to be compromised. The weak-willed, lily-livered politicians are great while they have NATO to take care of everything. Yes, ideally the yanks would **** off but without them "rehabilitating" Germany where would Europe be now? If NATO stopped existing in the 90s where would be be? The Eastern Europeans and Baltics are the ones who have history and know all about Russia first hand, I'm sure they're pretty glad of the US influence right now. Finland and Sweden are looking at what is happening and also listening to their population who seem to be happier to join NATO now. Germany meanwhile sandbagged even as their population seemed to be ready for more.
Yes, ideally the yanks would have no influence beyond their own shores but in the real world thank **** the Ukrainians hung on long enough to get the yanks onside. Because even the yanks have a cost/benefit to do and had Ukraine just slipped away then what, they're going to step up for Moldova in a few years? Georgia whenever they go in again? Nah, just more Russian creep towards the Balkans and Turkey while the Germans shrug and say everything is fine. And you know this, this war isn't the end. Any outcome relying on Russia's word is worthless to anyone other than Russia.
Nobody would advocate trying to inflict total defeat on Russia, for the small detail that this would literally mean the end of all life on the planet.
I think so too.
The only thing a chain swinging, bandana wearing, punk such as Putin understands, is the Crocodile Dundee approach.
Dem be metaphors, folks. No need to inform me that Putin doesn't wear a bandana, etc.
Not sure if this was shown here or not. But been following this guy's account. Absolutely brilliant stuff.
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