What else can they send without sending lads in on foot. New recruits will probably take some confront from being around this huge powerful machine... right up until a javelin lands on it and the turret falls on top of him. They literally have nothing else.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't already a thing. Your cable TV satellite doubling up as a high powered laser. If they had it they'd never admit it until it was used.
Saw this story yesterday about the intercepted call between a Russian soldier and his wife in which she OK'd him raping Ukrainian women as long as he wore protection, was extremely skeptical, but, multiple sources on Twitter seem to suggest it was real, still not convinced?
I've heard this is the case. Ukrainians or intel can't do an exact count. The Russians won't reveal. The Russian army is decimated. Even if the Ukrainians keep fighting as they are Russians will just run out of troops.
Only another 855,000 to incapacitate.
Turkey has the right to shut the Straits in times of war. Turkish government has already declared this conflict as a war. So no new warships allowed unless that is their home base / Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Hitting a single missile might be achievable, but taking out multiples is not.
Reports of 30 Polish mercenaries killed in Ukraine. Hopefully the reports of foreign fighters trapped underground in Azovstal steel plant alongside the Azov Nazi's are not connected with NATO in any way.
Russia doesn't have 900,000 troops. They have a quarter of that. They are most likely counting males of specific age that fall into a category whom are unable to buy their way out of conscription service and coming up with a figure of around a million. These are the people that will be conscripted in maybe.. if they come.
They dedicated 75 percent of their professional troops to this war. It's going .... Great.
@wotzgoingon one week forum ban for breaching threadban for a second time
If the Russians declare war its going to mean chemical bombings and tactical nukes, make no bones about it, this can escalate horribly, rapidly.
If they declare "war" our time on this earth is likely to be greatly shortened :( or maybe book a flight to New Zealand or somewhere neutral'ish in the southern hemisphere if you can.
No one is expecting Russia to launch nukes. We're just discussing the possibility of the US having a nuke defence system similar to the newly announced Isreali laser defence system.
They won't have to kill them all to end the war. When casualties reach an unacceptable level Russia will declare victory and pull back.
Brings tears to your eyes if you attempt to peel it.
Some things can not be unseen.
I'm surprised that Russia hasn't been mouthing off about the Montreux Convention with Turkey, mind you the last time they (rather the USSR) got into an argument with Turkey over the Convention it led to the Turkish straits crisis, and that led to Turkey joining NATO.
It seems history often repeats itself- Russian aggression = NATO expansion.
I've just watched this news snippet on Sky News and it seems that NATO may be considering putting ships in the Black Sea (2.14) -
https://youtu.be/yGzD79KHDJk
The F-117 was flying and in service for 9 years before the world learned of it's existence.
@wotzgoingon - I don't follow the news so haven't seen.
@wotzgoingon... Just keeping you up to date with current news.
The USA and allies need to flood Ukraine with weapons in that case.
Why would NATO send ships into the Black Sea now if they hadn't already done so? I mean aside from the fact there are already territorial seas belonging to 3 NATO nations in the Black Sea; I guess he's trying to say they're thinking about sending in a NATO task group or something... doesn't seem likely.
I'm sure you're very concerned.
I have seen a few posts by yourself in this thread echoing this same sentiment. How are you forming the conclusion that people don't care? Is it because they are laughing at the Russians mishaps and reveling in the victories of the Ukrainians?
I put it to you that that is precisely because people do care:
and it's because they care, that they therefore take satisfaction, laugh at or even celebrate whenever something bad happens to the Russians. It's the reaction to seeing an awful bully getting their comeuppance. Long may it continue.
You think the same NATO who is terrified of even giving significant quantities of weapons to Ukraine is going to have actual boots on the ground in Ukraine?
Whatever escalation giving a few rusty MiGs to Ukraine might prompt: having actual NATO units on the ground killing Russians would surely prompt a significantly more extreme escalation.
I mean NATO are so terrified of even training Ukrainian troops that they're talking about setting up "remote training" where Ukrainian soldiers go to Lithuania and NATO trains them remotely. How the **** that's supposed to work I don't even know.
Aside from which any claims from Russia about "foreign mercenaries" must be taken with an industrial sized railway carriage full of salt.
NATO are about to setup a new 1300km border with Russia.
Doesn't sound very terrified to me. 😕
That poster will post anything, even if it's totally made up, that can be remotely spun to show NATO or the EU in a bad light. Only a few days ago, they were fantasising that the US and the UK were on the verge of leaving NATO.
And every time the Ruble gains .1%, @brickster69 goes,
Watch out Russia, more of the deadly foe nearby 😅
Too right i am, even on the slim chance they may be there. All these reports of failed helicopter evacuations and sea corridors to get people out from the area does give the impression maybe some people are in that steel plant are of the kind that should not be there. Why would you try and extract some guys who have been watching too many Braveheart films
We will find out soon enough what is there in the next few days when the get flushed out, probably just a few freedom fighters that were reported to of gone hopefully.
Russian reward for being top of the class: Sit miserably at a memorial for dead invaders.
Looks like this guy is trying to avoid the draft by claiming to be a 12 year old 😁