good news.
Worth mentioning that the 20% cut is only for the rest of 2022
there are a couple of different issues being mixed up into 1 which mean the claim of rural passengers being penalized is not true.
first of all bus eireann don't just operate in the cities, they operate plenty of rural routes as well, probably most of them really.
in addition to that, presumably all other PSO bus operators are subject to the fare decrease.
secondly, passengers on non-PSO operated routes unfortunately will have to pay full fares, there isn't anything the government really can do about that, it has to be on those operators to decide if viable to drop fares, and of course bus eireann expressway can't avail of the decrease unless they do it commercially dispite it being 1 company and the integration of it's services was of benefit to passengers, probably the only thing CIE have ever done in terms of integration of anything.
When this happens public transport fares will be close to a normal level. Remember that we have some of Europe's most expensive fares. Also fares here will be significantly cheaper than they are in the North, where wages are very low.
Bus Éireann, LocalLink and online InterCity fares will be reduced by 20% on Monday. The rest will be reduced next month.
Just to be absolutely clear from Monday, the 20% fare cut applies to all fares on the following:
The 20% fare reduction already applies to all monthly and annual tickets bought via www.taxsaver.ie
That last paragraph is a nasty jib at those of us whose employers don't do taxsaver. We paid full price for our monthly tickets. 😞
No tickets needed for bikes there B, you should look into it 😉
All PSO monthly and annual tickets are reducing in price by 20%, be they via Taxsaver or not.
Bus Éireann should change from Monday.
Most people buy their monthly ticket before the month starts, so they can use it during the first week.
Taxsaver tix sold during March were at the reduced price.
Regular ones weren't: I still have the receipt for mine, which I paid full price for on 28-March.
As I said - it should change from Monday.
The whole thing is being done in phases so there will be people who won’t benefit straight away at each phase.
Again DB are being lazy and feeding us with excuses...
https://www.thejournal.ie/fare-reductions-5733025-Apr2022/?utm_source=facebook_short
Think that is a bit harsh, the machines are based on technology that is approx. 30 years old.
In the normal course of events they would have eight weeks notice to do this - this really isn't any more than that.
The public announcement was just far earlier than usual.
Do we know when these ticket machines are going to be changed? I think a contract hasn't been signed with a supplier yet?
The next generation ticketing was lumped in with the bus connects infrastructure business case so they are able to press on with that now, not sure if a supplier has been picked yet though. Even then, it will be a few years until it will be fully implemented as I believe the NTAs plan is to gradually move to the new system in stages.
Tender to be awarded in 2023 and implementation in 2024 was the last indication I saw. As above the delay in government approving the outline business case has not helped.
This is very unfair unless they subsidise private operators to the same extent.
Imagine if you had a shop that was giving you a basic income and the government decided to open one next door but were giving 20% off everything, subsidised by taxpayers.
None of the publicly funded companies commercially operated services are included in this policy so it's not really a valid point.
The services that are getting this discount are those which are deemed as public service obligation and don't directly compete with commercial operators.
What will be the new standard leap bus fare in Dublin be with the 20% reduction? The €2.30 leap fare will reduce to what?
They haven't published it yet. But I wouldn't take any % reduction directly. It's mainly been used previously to advertise the reduction across all the fares, not individual fares.
€2. On the basis that the current €2.30 is actually €2.50 reduced to €2.30 for a promotional period. It's cheeky but technically true. It was supposed to go up to €2.50 in March but wasn't raised given the imminent reduction.
I'm hearing that they don't actually want to raise it to €2.50 in 2023 but there's a lot of politics to be played between now and the end of the year.
Student and young adult fares will be €1.
Thanks for that Peregrine.
I think €2 is more than a fair fare (excuse the pun!). It would be my experience, that that is getting close to EU averages and ahead of some places. I really never thought the day that I could practically travel across Dublin for 90 minutes with a free transfer for €2 and then head home on my bus which is a 24 hour route. Finally getting somewhere.
I notice on the Dublin Bus fares website the price of a 30 day rambler is now showing as 132 Euro (down from the usual 165).
Does anyone know if they are already on sale with the reduction applied? I presume no adjustment to the machines is needed as it just deducts a 'day' when validated?
If we get enforcement of bus lanes next year, we'll also gain a degree of journey time reliability. I'd say we'll just about have an average European bus service, astounding when you look at how primitive it was only 10 years ago. Credit where due.
Dublin's lack of rail coverage remains a major issue and will do even after DART+ and the long fabled metrolink.
seems you'd need to be using the bus a lot to justify buying a rambler now, I assume it was mainly used previously by people who had to change buses?
Well that works out at 4.40 Eur a day for unlimited travel? What makes that so hard to justify?
When does the DART reduction kick in? 1st of May?
because for a regular commuter (probably 95%+ of paying passengers) it's only €4 a day to pay on Leap with the reduced fares. Rambler is only value for someone making a 3rd distinct trip on some days. Previously (at least before the 90-minute fare was introduced) the rambler was useful for anyone who had to change buses as part of their commute.
Thats fair enough but I was referring to people who make numerous trips in a day.
Llllllllll
Plus I was trying to point out that it looks like the rambler fares have already been reduced.
I'm sure there are still people for whom it's a useful product, but it's much more niche that it was before.
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