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Best value EV (or hybrid) 7 seat towcar

topofthewind

Hi all,

Was looking to upgrade my car to an ev/hybrid if feasible (currently have a 7 seat Skoda Kodiaq).

I need to have 7 seats and the ability to tow a caravan. I do about 28k km a year.

So far am struggling to find an option that meets my requirements in the ev or hybrid range.

Is my only realistic (and affordable) option to stick with an ICE vehicle?

I have had a look at most of the major brand offerings but suspect I may have missed something.

Any costed suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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topofthewind

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889722#Comment_118889722

The 100kg would make a difference alright as the recommended way of loading for a trip is to put a lot of your cargo kgs between the axles of the towing vehicle for stability. In practice that means that if towing 1600kg at the towbar, there would be a decent load in the car too.

Lantus

Just so you are aware adding even a small caravan to an ev will cripple the range. A good sized ev like an enyaq 80kwh will do 150km with a caravan at best....see the video below.

https://youtu.be/mmQJUW-VyRY

There is no viable ev to tow a caravan practically yet and with 7 seats and luggage plus bike etc. Stick with what you have.

topofthewind

Sorento the best value hybrid option it seems. Coming in somewhere around €57,000. No ev on the table for now.

The Kodiaq currently not available in petrol (despite what the website says) so best price is the diesel dsg at around €47,000 (after paint plus delivery).

Big price difference between the two. Looks like an ICE the best value for now. Will be interesting to see how well diesels hold their value going forward vs hybrids.

fits

Sorento PHEV best option I’d say. The ioniq5 can tow 1600kg which might do for a caravan but it’s not a seven seater.

kanuseeme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889662#Comment_118889662

The diesel versions are 1 to 2 k more expensive, it would really be down to your trips, better economy if you do lots of 50 km trips, I found from my outlander it was no worse than a diesel on long trips, only that petrol was 10 cent more expensive, about 5 euro extra on a 320 km trip to Dublin.

Its 100 kg short, would that make much of a difference?

topofthewind

Thanks for the reply.

The Kia Sorrento went from circa €40,000 to about €60,000 a few years back. Was a great shame as that and the Santa Fe were in a great position to compete with the VAG group offerings.

topofthewind

Thanks for that.

The Citroen has a towing limit of 1000kg. Not bad, but there wouldn’t be many caravans below that weight. You’d want at least 1,500kg for most outfits I’d say. My one is 1600kg and wouldn’t be one of the biggest.

kanuseeme

https://www.kia.com/ie/new-cars/sorento-phev/discover/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs4aqgNj_9gIVRbTtCh0siwhJEAAYASAAEgLQG_D_BwE

55 km range, 1.6l petrol, 260 bhp. tow 1500 kg.

Better looking than the transit van,

pron

https://ev-database.org/car/1341/Citroen-e-SpaceTourer-M-50-kWh

Might have some useful info

topofthewind

Thanks for that info. Very helpful.

I’ll have a look at those van conversion options. At €50k the price gap isn’t as big as I thought (the ICE 7 seaters have gone way up over the past year). I must look up the towing range of a 50kW vehicle, I suspect it mightn’t be great though.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889352#Comment_118889352

There is a 7 seat option for the Tesla Model S alright, but the car is not rated for towing.

pron

In the short-term : Yes, sticking with ICE / PHEV is about your only real option (and I'm not sure PHEV counts in 7-seat terms)

Options for 7-seaters are, effectively:

Tesla Model X 7-seater €120k if you can get one
Mercedes EQV about €100k
Citroen Spacetourer (van conversion, seems only 50kW available here) .. also Peugeot / Opel versions of same - about €50k
Volkswagen ID.Buzz (there's a promised 7-seat LWB version, but nothing official yet)
Older Tesla Model S with jump-seats for toddlers :)