you left out the kicker where he says
"and to again help our partner Trump to become President."
Wait! So, yet another **** thing people here and elsewhere said happened, which Trump and his cronies denied happening, actually happened?
Christ - it's almost as if all this "fake news" was absolutely true!
No wonder there are no more folk on boards who were around as that time saying we had "Trump Derangement Syndrome". Turns out, they were deranged
The thing is that Trump doesn't actually even register "Treason" as an act that he can commit.
His brain only functions one way - Self-Gratification. It serves absolutely no other purpose.
He views damage to Biden as beneficial to himself so he will accept that damage coming from anywhere and from any one.
He has absolutely no concept of the bigger picture or the idea of putting National security above his personal interests.
It's not even a conscious choice on his part , there is no calculus in his brain evaluating the wider implications of a decision or a statement before he does something.
His brain sees "Good for me , Bad for my Enemies" and that's it , nothing more nothing less.
Many of us have asked for the opinions of Trump supporters on his various dealings and impact. I have personally asked on at least 4 occasions where I said I would offer no rebuttal or argument. People are curious about the rationale of supporting trump as more and more evidence of wrong-doing appears. Even if trump supporters believe (With some justification) that some of the cases against him are biased, I believe it is fair to say that his statements on election fraud are now proven false and the continued claims are now simply lies. His condoning of white supremacist groups and the Self-professed statements of sexual assault, His continual support of Putin's invasion, his financial irregularities (Both personal and campaign money).
I have personally asked a simple question: Where is the line? Is there a line? I stated each time that I would offer no rebuttal/challenge. We are curious as to the mindset that believes his actions are acceptable and what would be considered unacceptable.
Their behaviour is understandable when you accept that it is a cult.
The line is quite simply - "Become a Democrat" , because right now all that matters in the US is which side you are on. While both sides are wont to instantly dismiss the other side , the GOP have elevated it to an art-form along with their ability to excuse and defend any words or actions from someone with an (R) after their name.
Really what matters is who you vote for. I'm not sure what "Becoming a Democrat" means. Register for the primaries? I've done mail-ins for so long I don't remember if I ever had to register as a Democrat (or GQP) to vote in their primaries, maybe I did.
But, when it comes to the actual elections at any level (i.e., run by the States, not the parties) you can vote for whoever you want.
I think the GQP's the one that's seriously into cultism and indoctrination. The so-called Conservatives like the Trumpenjuden that show up at the CPAC meetings are different, they want to control your voting completely. Never got that feeling from Democrats, and I grew up in a household led by Roosevelt Democrats who routinely voted either party in elections, I still remember being in line with my parents at the voting station when they were discussing voting for Nixon but otherwise Democratic down the ballot. I recall trying to talk them out of voting for Nixon, but no luck.
What I meant by "become a democrat" perhaps should have been phrased as "become a liberal"
I genuinely believe that Trump and the GOP in general can get away with any level of impropriety and indeed criminality as long as they remain loyal to the core Conservative tenets.
Hate Immigrants , Hate "different" , Hate "Government" , (pretend to ) Love God and Guns
You could see the reaction that Trump got when he starting speaking positively about Vaccines.
As long as Trump doesn't come out saying that "CRT" isn't really all that bad or that maybe increased background checks on Gun ownership isn't such a bad idea then his base will never leave him.
... or because of threats.
Do you know what?
I'd be perfectly happy to waltz into a thread to argue my point if I believed that the facts supported my view and the view was one I genuinely held.
Any ad hominem attacks would be reported and I would stick to verifiable data points to support my point of view.
NOT.ONE.TRUMP.SUPPORTER has done that.
Not one.
Nothing but belly aches, lashing out disingenuously, false comparisons or all out lies.
That's why there aren't any left. None can discuss matters in good faith because Trump is indefensible and they're simply called out on their bullshit.
LOL.
Arguments against a position and asking people to back up their position aren't "threats".
This is basically when posters get annoyed that people are arguing with them over a point and say without a hint of irony that this place is just an echo chamber. It’s why they rarely post, it’s easier to pretend your the victim than to stick around.
You're threatened? By whom? Did you report the post? Where's the post containing the threat?
I highly doubt you'd answer that, like all your challenged posts, but we live in hope
It's a bit wierd that two people thanked that post despite no evidence of these supposed threats being provided 🤔
Not surprising really, Trump fans don't do evidence.
What threats?
Truth Social has fallen to about 60,000 new subscribers a week, and is only at approx 1.2m total users. That's after about 5 weeks.
Trump has been so perturbed by the stumbling rollout that he was heard asking, “What the **** is going on?” on the phone, The Daily Beast reported.
What's ironic about it?
Can I give this post Reddit gold
Stop it Patrick you’re threatening him!
Mounting examples of MAGA attaching itself to Russia's cries of victimhood
We ought to start a betting pool on how long it will be before Trump absconds from the US and seeks asylum in Russia?
That was a popular option before and after the election. He is to good an asset for Putin to be allowed leave.
I'm honestly not sure what the security protocols are on former POUTS's though, it's possible they wouldn't be authorized to leave the US, because of their security clearances. But Trump's was defacto revoked weeks before he left office and in response to the autocoup. So Fmr. President Trump may be allowed to find his way out of the legal sovereignty of the US after all. But I think it's far more likely with all these investigations and lawsuits he's under, that he is listed as a flight risk by the FAA. I can't recall any international travel Trump has had since the end of his term.
I dont think they could stop him leaving if he wanted to.
It's indeed in the realm of probability, but as a policy matter it seems as though he's been geofenced to the US. Unless I've read the situation incorrectly.
FYP:
I dont think they would stop him leaving if he wanted to.
If trump decided to disappear to Elba and never come back again, it would probably suit a lot of people in the GOP. If the existing administration tried to stop him, all the lickspittles would cry foul and complain how mean the DNC were (without any sarcasm being shown).
As it is, him cosying up to putin recently is just another thing in the long list of things that will make him unelectable outside his base.
The degenerate morality of those that continue to support him is laid bare for all to see.
I stand over my post. there is no mechanism to stop a former president from leaving the country.
Don't think it is something that can be proven either way imho.
I suppose he could be arrested, but sure we will never know because that's not gonna happen.
arrested for what? that is just nonsense.