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Pagani Design PD 2720K

Henry Ford III

First post here.

Just bought one of these and it's on the way. Looks pretty good and I'm kind of glad it's not a replica or homage watch.

It has a Seiko VK67 movement and seems to be excellent value at c.€58 delivered. including a stainless steel strap.

Any thoughts?

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Henry Ford III

funkyouup

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058238212/pagani-design-pd-2720k

Isn't that a Porsche Design design?

endacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118814928#Comment_118814928

No. It’s an <insert name> design original design.

Henry Ford III

Tough crowd.

Any comments on the watch itself apart from brand snobbery?

Lorddrakul

One of the better low cost Chrono movements. Non servicable, I think, but can be simply replaced in case of faults.

It's a decent looking watch for the price with a proven movement. If you like the look of it, that's all that's important.

funkyouup

I wasn't trying to **** on it, i just thought it was a porsche homage watch, looks good to me. You seem to get a lot for your money with pagani.

Cienciano

€58 delivered, hard to beat that. Design seems nice, but the bracelet seems low quality from the photo, might have been better to get a leather strap

Henry Ford III

I prefer a stainless steel strap (I think it was an extra).

Some interesting videos on it on YouTube

https://youtu.be/Cd8MCyGqwuc

fat bloke

Great looking watch, in the pics at least. What's it like in the hand? Quartz I presume?

Fitz II

Pagani design have never had an original idea, they are all low cost homage watches. 100% disposable. Not well regarded. Usually the watch is described as "good for the money" but the money is so small that the good is proportional. Seiko, Casio, Orient..better place to start watch collecting. Pagani are really fake watches just without the brand name copyright infringement so they can be sold on amazon. Sry.

Henry Ford III

Don't know yet. It hasn't arrived.

Movement is a Seiko Meca Quartz, which is a good one at this price point I think.

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118816482#Comment_118816482

Fair enough but this one apparently isn't a clone or homage.

Reviews suggest that this is a lot of watch for the money. That's what I'm after.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118816506#Comment_118816506

I think Jughans Max Bill and Porsche design would think otherwise.

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118817735#Comment_118817735

I had a look at both websites. I wouldn't agree with you.

There's way too much openly expressed brand snobbery here I think.

funkyouup

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818242#Comment_118818242

Welcome to the world of internet watch discussion⌚️😉

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118818242#Comment_118818242

Hey you asked for people's thoughts, If you dont care what other people think dont ask. Or maybe its only positive thought you are after, and the warm glow of confirmation of already made purchase. Dont be slagging off the people bothered to take the time to reply. Nobody has any ill will or jealousy and we welcome all collectors at all levels on this forum. But its an honest forum,

Henry Ford III

I asked for opinion on the watch itself, and got opinions on mainly brand originality instead from a few posters including yourself. Dismissive and snobby, and mostly baseless.

My view is that for the price the combination of a good quality movement (used in watches costing up to €250 apparently), stainless steel case strap and back, decent hardlex glass, and overall finish the watch represents great value.

Comparing the brand to anything else isn't the point.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118819413#Comment_118819413

Oh right its a review of your watch you are after ok. Its an ugly big thick watch, with a awful looking poorly integrated bracelet, its poor quality stainless, most likely will hollow links and rattly which looks terrible IRL. The movement has the chrono registers too close together, its a chrono with no tach scale, The date window is in a weird position cause the watch is too big for the movement Its a 5 euro movement unworthy of praise. Hardlex glass scratches like all hell and is the cheapest of glass especially when it's so domed and thick. . The logo it too prominently displayed and is aping the porsche design logo. Its a bauhaus type design that is too heavily logo'ed and adorned to be bauhaus. In watch collecting these are called "shitters". Its also a pagani design which is the absolute dross of watches purchased by children....as a watch standing on its own its unworthy of any mans time or money. Its a cheap trinket which will instill no pride of ownership or wearing pleasure. At the price your money would be better spent elsewhere, its absolutely heinous. Vostock, Casio, Seiko all represent better value for money. Price is what you pay value is what you get.

Henry Ford III

Fantastic rant 😁

It's absolutely amazing what you can tell from a picture.

1/. Ugly big thick. I didn't include the spec. Looking at it however and comparing it to other competing watches it's neither.

2/. Awful looking bracelet. You're entitled to your opinion. I actually opted for that at extra cost. Reviews have praised the bracelet, and others suggest going with a leather strap instead.

3/. Poor quality stainless. I'm calling bull on that. You couldn't possibly tell that from a photo. Many proper reviews disagree with you however.

4/. Hardlex. I'll go with this view instead....https://www.thewatchcompany.com/blog/guide-to-hardlex-crystal/#:~:text=As%20mentioned%20above%2C%20Hardlex%20crystal,like%20diving%2C%20hiking%2C%20etc.

5/. A 5 euro movement. Afraid not. The Seiko VK67 is a higher quality movement. A new one is (or was) c. €36.

Working class heroes

Bloody mods are trolling now😁

Henry Ford III

I'll leave this here for the watch snobs...

https://youtu.be/JX1fmp6NriM

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118819582#Comment_118819582

Well sounds like you have it all sussed, enjoy the watch.

Wibbs

60 quid? I missed that. Jaysus you can't go wrong for that money. Solid link bracelet, decent Seiko movement, seems to have a bit of heft. The crystal seems vulnerable to getting a whack with it being domed, though with a fair bit of anti reflective coating. How they can produce anything like that for the money and make a profit on it is beyond me, but clearly they do.

Deep Thought

Had one previously , for the money, It works. Bracelet was a bit of a rattler

these are also sold on other forums like TZ,

Don’t think it deserves the bashing it got.

They serve a purpose, probably not for everyone but I would feel the same about Rolex

Cienciano

People say go for seiko/casio but in all honesty, unless I was buying a g-shock, which is a watch for a particular purpose, I'd rather go down the Chinese route. Way more choices in styles for that money. Some watches are completely terrible looking, but some great looking watches too.

I think a standard 3 handed watch would look better, but I'm biased as I never like chronos

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118815457#Comment_118815457

I don’t think it’s brand snobbery, rather an appreciation for original design and quality of construction, which these lack. The same watches come in options with the “real” brand names also, ie fakes.

Would you go to the cooking forum and ask them what they think of “insert random brand” frozen ready meal and be well received by everyone? Probably not.

For 60 quid you get a lot a “watch” but no originality. Not sure how much validation you need from others to risk that purchase.

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822394#Comment_118822394

That'd make sense if this was an homage or replica watch, which this isn't.

I'm not looking for validation to risk a purchase either - that's already done.

Cienciano

Btw, new video from this guy, always worth a look if you're buying a watch from aliexpress

https://youtu.be/Mc_Gq12L8bs