When she opens with the usual "you won't see this in the mainstream media" you can be sure what follows are going to be half truths or complete and utter bollocks. And I wasn't far wrong. The outgoing president was a corrupt prick in the pocket of Putin. The anti oligarch laws that Zelenskyy brought in were a tad inconvenient for him. And he wasn't thrown in gaol, indeed was still going to parliament. Indeed Zelenskyy had wanted to bring in tougher laws around that(though he did get stuff like the president was no longer immune to prosecution. Crazy notion), but not all of them got through the Ukrainian parliament. One of those crazy things you hear about in democracies. The Ukrainian media themselves were dubious about some of his media reforms and reported it openly. Also something you tend to find in democracies. Now compare and contrast with the facist prick in the Kremlin. Have any of his proposals been rejected by the Dumas? That would be a no. How safe are Russian media outlets that go against the party line? Not very. And now you can end up in a Russian prison for fifteen years if you don't stick to the script.
Is Ukraine a bastion of all that is good in the world? Hell, no it isn't. It's still economically screwed, riddled with corruption and cronyism with a civil war in the East where neither side comes out clean of blood on their hands, but compared to Russia it's a disneyland of freedom and democracy.
I don't agree with doing harm to them physically, but those relatives of top Russian officials who are living in the West should have their assets stripped and either placed under house arrest or sent back to Russia. Make Putin and his circle feel every bit of pain they can if NATO won't directly confront Russian forces in Ukraine.
I actually agree.
They are completely untrustworthy.
What's notable about this is the Ukrainians saying this.
Someone did get emotional earlier when I suggested they were being at least partially manipulated by mainstream media.
As for where I get my info (and have thus correctly called a lot of things over the past two years), that would be often from the globalists themselves. IE the people who (now openly) own your politicians. World Economic Forum is a great place to start. You'll pick a lot up listening to their conferences, interviews, reading through various connected documentation, patents etc.
You're being showed a consistent message and the same emotional propaganda from mainstream media because that's what they want you to see.
I suppose the simple question always is: who controls the puppets you're all distracted by on the public stage? What's their agenda? Whilst mainstream media bombards you with something on the left, what are the people who actually dictate global policy doing over on the right? You're distracted by checkers whilst the guys above are playing chess. Over and over.
Anyway, hopefully this Ukraine situation is resolved soon. Have a good day, my friend.
Ffs, can the two of you not just get a room and leave the rest of us out of it?
Given the high ranking positions she had held in the US gvoernment and MIC, she is just as likely to be smirking ("duper's delight," as some call it) because she's a honey trap (of sorts) designed to attract certain types.
Yep.
Tactical chemical or biological strike will take out the protection detail as well.
As are you...
Confirmed, one US journalist killed
I'll take the 'accusations' in the video delivered by Gabbard in order.
Gabbard is a dolt and her "mAinSTReam MEdiA" schtick is designed to appeal to low-IQ Trumpite GOP soccer moms who don't have a breeze about the world and the mendacity of the Putinist system - but will trust Gabbard because she has nice hair and is a 'boss girl.'
Swallow this nonsense at your peril. Ukraine is a democracy - an imperfect one- but persisting under the kosh of hybrid warfare for over a decade in the face of a fascist irredentist neighbour.
It is more important to score political points than to take a moment to acknowledge the untold human tragedy that is associated with these points
I find it telling that she expresses opinions about a really tragic humanitarian situation while smirking smugly. That's the narcissism of the contrarian truth-seeker, right there.
So, send a death squad to Switzerland to murder Putin's children and grandchildren?
Right.
An analyst on Russian affairs on the RTE's This Week at lunchtime was saying that any 'negotiations' with the Russians at the moment are just a sham on their side and a cynical PR move. They are pathological liars and couldn't be trusted for even a second. Anything they supposedly sign up to wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on.
Good response!
Where is @Yurt2 when you need him. He was also great at dealing with the trolls!
That video was posted on the 10th of February. The whole “there’s no Russian plot to topple the Ukrainian government” really hasn’t aged well over the past three weeks, has it?
Discuss it .....
Why do you disagree with the shutting down of TV stations which are operating as propaganda Machines for a regime you are basically in war with for the past Eight years
Why do you disagree house arrest being put on a person who:
"is accused of transferring oil and gas production licenses from one of the fields in Crimea to Russian authorities. Russia annexed the Black Sea peninsula in 2014, weeks after Ukraine's former Moscow-friendly president was ousted by protesters.
Medvedchuk is also charged with allegedly disclosing secret data on the deployment of Ukrainian military units last year.''
So you’ve got a conspiracy theory about Putin planning with the rest of the world both Covid and attacking Ukraine. Conspiracy theory forum is that away ——>
I would love her to tell that to the dead children in Ukraine
Yeah, I actually did know she was a Dem primary candidate in 2020, I just didn't express my surprise at her somewhat odd position clearly enough.
Of course Zelensky has just invaded a neighbouring country for no reason.
But but but Ukraine isn’t perfect so it’s actually worse than Russia.
Can you tell me how it feels to be a gullible patsy for blatant propaganda?
My current thoughts.
Send a strike team into Switzerland and take out the little Putins and Putina's.
Let there be no legacy.
That's where the severe sanctions do their job
Putin post knife to Ukrainian throat deal. 'Okay, now the western sanctions can be lifted'.
The West, 'nah, we're grand, thanks.'
I don't know what Gabbard's gig is or what she is used for (could be to track and trace internal dissent; could be genuine, I have no clue) but she is far from a fringe figure:
Tulsi Gabbard is a four-term member of the House of Representatives from Hawaii and a veteran. First elected in 2012, she serves on the Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees. She positions herself as an environmentalist and a critic of “regime change wars.”
A major in the Hawaii National Guard, she deployed to Iraq from 2004 to 2005. Born in American Samoa and raised in Hawaii, she is a graduate of Hawaii Pacific University.
Look this is a discussion forum.
If you post something you should prepared for people to respond?
If you can't handle that you can post protected tweets on twitter with responses off.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261?icid=related
Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.
Since Gabbard announced her intention to run on Jan. 11, there have been at least 20 Gabbard stories on three major Moscow-based English-language websites affiliated with or supportive of the Russian government: RT, the Russian-owned TV outlet; Sputnik News, a radio outlet; and Russia Insider, a blog that experts say closely follows the Kremlin line. The CIA has called RT and Sputnik part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."
I am starting to believe you glory in exposing your own idiocies
I am split: on the one-hand peace would be amazing and on the other it may embolden other rogue states to start annexing sovereign nation.
My fear is that it will become a precedent for would-be dictators
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