The "end of the world" doesn't just look like Mad Max.
Think about what you're saying for a second.
If, say, there's just two 50 MT warheads dropped...and unlikely scenario...but let's say one warhead gets used and it's greeted with another single one in retaliation. You will have huge areas of land that will become uninhabitable for decades. It'll make Chernobyl look like a broken ride at Disney Land.
The fallout in human terms would be almost unimaginable.
We've already had people bemoaning the Ukrainian refugees moving west because of Russia's invasion. Poland have already been warning of a humanitarian crisis on their border because of a million. Well, imagine many, many, millions more desperately trying escape the long lasting effects of a nuclear exchange on European soil and the effects that that would have on western Europe. It would probably tank western Europe for a long time to come.
So the "end of the world" might not be a desert wasteland. But it would certainly mean the end of things in Europe as we know it.
Sweet Enola Gay, son - what planet are you on!?
Maybe your scenario plays out on the XBox but not in real life. If nuclear weapons are triggered, then it's Goodnight Irene.
One of the fallouts from this war after it's all settled, is countries that are supposed to be allies of the US or under their protection....will seek their own protection. America's word is not worth the paper it's written on. I suspect Gulf states + Israel Re: Iran deal will find that out. Absolutely despicable to disarm Ukraine and assure them of their safety.
If the West takes that view then Putin can do what he likes.
Hell he might be only starting with Ukraine..
Not much noted but in the last two weeks the United States has quietly but consistently been upping it's military hardware and personnel presence all over NATO Europe particularly, of course, in Eastern Europe.
With these additional deployments, the US now has about 100,000 US military personnel either on rotational or permanent orders stationed in Europe right now, the official said.
Even if Russian jets were deterred from entering Ukrainian airspace with NATO jets flying around, there'd be nothing to stop the Russians firing off a few SAMs at those planes from the ground. Therefore, it would be necessary to take out SAM sites and their support/supply infrastructure in order to ensure aerial superiority, and if those supply lines lead back to Russian territory, then it might be good time to stick a bit of coal up our arses, for we might get a diamond.
Anyway, if the Russians are willing to just not fly planes over Ukraine, they'd be as well to pack up and go home, which would be ideal, since aerial support is a big component in a successful invasion strategy, these days (not that I'd call their invasion strategy particularly successful thus far).
Only one way to find out ,nato aircraft are there most nights ,throw some armed interceptors into the mix ,you could find a lot of Russian pilots calling in sick
What's not going to happen? What are you trying to articulate? Just because you have the Roscommon colours draped over your picture doesn't give you the licence to talk derogatory nonsense to me G
I am serious, and don't call me tell me
Don't be so sure.
To quote the words of Martin Luther King:
"I Have a Dream"....
Unfortunately now the appetite is America first. There is too much internal strife to unify the Americans collectively. They are most keen to use their money to keep down the price of inflation than to save some faraway people. There is no sense of collective good anymore. It is cult of the individual. Being incredibly selfish is lauded. And closer to home, I saw some guy saying that the Ukraine war should stop because it will drive up the price of his petrol. That is their mentality
A no fly zone is not possible without taking out ground to air defences. It's why Russia cannot fly with supremacy over Ukraine. There are many devices dotted around Ukraine, thanks to NATO.
YOU CANNOT ENFORCE A NO FLY ZONE WITHOUT AIR SUPREMACY.
YOU CANNOT HAVE AIR SUPREMACY WITH SAM SITES ACROSS THE BORDER IN RUSSIA.
NATO will not attack Russia (for obvious reasons, although some preppers would love it).
There is no need for a no fly zone, Russian Air Force jets/attack helicopters are getting knocked out of the sky.
The problem is Russian artillery.
I don’t know how the US would react to WWII if it happened now… Would they still fly in to help us…..
Just to keep us all grounded and a bit more pessimistic in the face of undoubted Ukrainian military success.
I asked you if you were willing to have your loved ones die in a nuclear holocaust over Ukraine, not fight to a glorious death like in some movie you may have watched. You said you were. (That means your daughter having her eyeballs melt and roll down her cheeks, by the way, before she ignites and is carbonized. Not that you seem to care about the deaths of children globally, which would be the result of your would-be honor-inspired machismo. But what does that matter? Thermonuclear death is so righteous and glorious!)
At the time of writing 15 posters have endorsed your view that a nuclear war against Putin’s Russia and the permanent destruction of the future would be a noble path to take. In short, you and those other fools have taken leave of your senses.
Chest thumping apes are dominating the narrative here. I think you and the other brave warriors who liked your rabid post should personally hop on a plane to Poland, cross the border, pick up a gun, and trudge off through the mud and snow to do glorious battle with Ivan, along with the other conscripts who’d never held a gun before two weeks ago, before we reach for the nukes. Put your money where your mouth is.
No, he wont go beyond Ukraine. It has been a wake up call for him and his generals.
Believe it or not, I can see a general ceasefire by end of week. I think Putin will call a halt when he takes Kyiv and possibly Odessa. He will be looking for an easy exit from that point - obviously he will negotiate hard around certain demands but it has already been a disaster for Russia.
Because collective good = communism = russia = bad
Therefore let Russia take over Ukraine so gas prices settle down.
America is in a very poor mental state.
Has Russia already lost the war? Intense fighting is going on in many parts of Ukraine of course, but their progress seems to have slowed considerably in recent days with few major breakthroughs.
I mean not like Blair or Bush ever went there. Russia, US and China aren't signed up to it either so it won't happen.
I appreciate this is a horrible war and that tensions as well as fears and concerns run high. Can posters try and remain civil rather than engage in aggressive posting towards other users
Fiona Hill saying that we are "already in World War 3" is quite pertinent, something picked up by Alex Crawford.
Not sure how Crawford visits the most dangerous spots in the world with such regularity, but it's to be admired.
I thought this was fascinating look at military spending. It’s no wonder nobody attacks USA.
I wonder will this ruse by Putin force Europe and Uk to start jumping up those charts.
Im still unsure why Putin might be afraid of usa and not France/uk from a nuclear POV, is it the types of nukes are different?
We're living in a world of selfish pricks. Quite happy to watch children slaughtered whilst hiding behind empty threats of nukes and complaining about the cost of living. Same ones will bitch about the refugees when they arrive too. It's no wonder Putin decided to do what he's done.
Now, you would probably get more likes in the US on TikToc if Kylie Jenner’s dog died versus the war in Ukraine. People don’t care. They just want to be there in their little bubble, amidst their privilege.
But sometimes, we are faced with evil. We have to counter it, whatever the cost.
Yet, the government knows that there is a general apathy of the electorate towards foreign affairs. Why tackle it if it won’t bring votes?
Well said. very sad. But some of the decision making - specifically to go from being fully self-sufficient with regards to energy, and within 12 months having to go cap in hand to Iran and Venezuela begging for oil. It's an absolute disaster and leaves America hamstrung and still paying bloody Putin for oil. It's a fallen state. You're right, it's breaking up from the inside.
Yea you said 'if' and thats all it is.
Who exactly is he that is getting intel briefings?
Couldn't make it up
There aren’t many good options in this war unfortunately. Civilian lives are being lost continuously. Most people are speaking in terms of escalation, not de escalation. Ukraine will not be able to withstand the Russians and currently nato will not be joining in direct conflict, a solution needs to be found somewhere.
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