Zero id say. It would result in nuclear strikes and the World won't risk that for a non NATO Country.
Couldn't tell you.
Considering that part of modern Weestern Ukraine was actually in Poland until brutally invaded by Hilter & Stalin in collusion in 1939, I would suggest that as Putin has indicated that he does not consider the post war modern borders of Europe legitimate, why should the rest of Europe or the world?
Once he massacres hundreds of thousands of people all consideration of legitimate borders are an irrellevance & it's time for the world to act against this 21st century Hitler.
It's up to Ukraine who & what military forces from other nations can access it's territory not some tyrant who still claims to be acting for a legitimate cause, so justifying a perverted invasion of mass murder & destruction.
Slava Ukraine! Death to Putin!
Can't say I'm an expert on Vietnam but it wasn't a war solely in Vietnam as other superpowers took sides and participated.
Ukraine are alone. If the US joined them on the ground then I'd say fight as the US would hammer Russia. But Ukraine are going to be crushed, it's inevitable.
Not sure what these two are up to here. Contest here looks more like they disagree and they are trying to show some support for Putin.
Mr Fridman and Mr Aven will contest the spurious and unfounded basis for the imposition of these sanctions - vigorously and through all means available to them to reverse unwarranted and unnecessary damage to the livelihoods and prosperity of their many employees, customers, partners and stakeholders and the businesses that they and their partners have built up over the past 25 years.
No surprise that people tend to feel more for their own tribes. This is human nature. The guy is basically saying that he's emotional seeing his own kind getting butchered. The Arabs are just the same in Arab media when they talk about M.E conflicts. They even differentiate which kind of Arab i.e shia/Sunni.
And like it or not, there is more shock at this happening in Europe. We're used to the M.E countries fighting it out.
How do you know that? Based on what would you make that assumption? Putin said there's Nazis in the Country, the west said there isn't. There is in fact. The Ukraine President said he is Jewish, how could he be a Nazi? The Nazis in the Country are being funded by another Jewish person so yes the President could in fact be a Nazi. I'm not saying he is. But I'm not saying he isn't either.
He has done nothing about the Nazi unit in the National Guard. Why? Not all seems as it first appeared. Ukraine is a corrupt Country. You might not like that. That's not my problem. Peace for the People, Russia must be stopped. But Putin isn't as weak as Members on here will have you believe. A lot on here are not half as concerned for the poor people of the Ukraine. Half are terrified of been nuked by Putin and I wouldn't blame them. But if they are as concerned about the Ukrainians as they say. Go and join the International Brigade.
I actually saw that. He did try briefly but eventually just let him ramble on and then the link was dropped. When someone wants to make an idiot of themselves you just leave them to it!
If Poland is allowing jets fly from its territory then Putin could send missiles or jets into Poland. This wont trigger Nato's article 5 as far as I understand it
I live beside one of the main border crossings from Ukraine into Poland.
I have interacted with both Indian and Africans.
Language is most notably a major problem.
At the moment any males in respective of nationality and are of able-bodied are not given top priority they are given food clothing ect but can wait till frail ingered sick woman children old are looked after.
At least see with my own eyes they have all been treated with respect and dignity.
Red Cross are trying to help them directly now.
As problem aroused with some males trying to force there way onto shuttle buses transporting woman and children to designated areas of support.
I believe all Indian students persons have be evacuated as private buses from England and persons dealt with them.
Russian missile missed it's target of Kharkiv government buildings. A few more civilians hit
Well Algeria should be happy... they will be selling surplus gas to the Eu to make up any Russian shortfall.
Yes, it is messy. And saddening. And Russia is problem number one right now.
I'm interested in other perspectives though. Here's a clip from the BBC that is going around the Arab world like wildfire. Speaking about 'European people with blue eyes and blond hair" has not gone down well AT ALL (and that's not good because of the solidarity aspect):
Ignore, need more coffee
@MeepMeep2021 wrote:
He stopped short of saying what I know some African-Americans would be saying: this war is some crazy white people sh1t. (Don't mention Rwanda, I suppose.)
I suppose makes a difference from white people looking at wars in Africa and thinking: this is just some crazy African sh1t.
It's a tough one. Obviously it's wrong, it shouldn't be happening. There are reports that black refugees are being sent to the back of queues at the border and told that "Ukrainians" have priority - even if that person is Ukrainian.
Ukraine and Poland are still largely homogenous populations like Ireland before 2000, and we know that with that comes a lot of ignorance and assumption.
But how do you deal with those issues in the middle of a war? An EU order to Poland to treat all refugees equally? Great. That'll be really helpful when it gets passed in 6 months' time.
I would hope that Polish & EU leaders are hearing these reports and putting pressure on the military to sort it out, but to a certain extent it feels like a distraction during an emergency.
Like you say though, there is the potential for an easy win here; get some North African nations on board in condemning Putin, perhaps even getting involved in sanctions, and you've got a level of unity that the world hasn't seen in centuries.
Well, I simply don't know the truth of it, or the answer. But the poster I was responding to was wondering about global solidarity and stories like this don't help. (I would prefer to see the type of solidarity AyeGer is looking for.)
That has value, well done
They are kicking up **** because it is women and children only on the trains, and if any men are on the trains it is family. They seem to think it's the Titanic and they were in first class.
He could be killed, but I think he's budgeted for the idea that he's an assassination target and probably takes every precaution it is possible to take.
If there were any credible hint of involvement by the West in his assassination, that could escalate rather than de-escalate.
There's an element of that which is universal, but I was talking to an African fella yesterday and while he, like all of us, can see Putin for what he is --a bully and a thief-- what he cared about most was the reports of mistreatment of Africans by Ukranians and others in the region.
The African Union has put a carefully worded statement out about it:
A twitter search for 'Africans' and 'Ukraine' is eye opening and provides another perspective.
Apparently it's a mistranslation
It's a 4 m/km convoy, 40 m/km from Kiev
so Putin is basically doing as he pleases while the EU and NATO stand by and watch. I think everyone understands the severity of the outcome should anyone intervene however do we just standby and let him do what he wants, where will he stop? Serious question but could he not just be killed? I don’t think any of his party would continue on this war without him.
What are the chances of say Poland saying fcuk this and sending troops and jets, they've been here before and know what can happen if a lunatic like putin is given half a chance, if the likes of Poland did get involved militarily will other countries follow them ?
Put it this way - Russia have already shown a willingness to go to war over the paranoid pretext of something a country might do, i.e. to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. On that form, they wouldn't need Poland to allow Ukraine to base aircraft there in order to have reason to declare war with Poland - they'd have already done so on the basis of Poland, and other countries, supplying Ukraine with weapons.
My thoughts are that it will take direct intervention by an EU/NATO country for Russia to declare war, there. The last thing Russia would be wanting to do at the moment is open up a second front considering the meal they're making of the present one.
Besides, Belarus are offering support to Russia, allowing their country to be used as a base for the invasion of Ukraine, but I don't think they're necessarily at war with Ukraine. At the very least, I have seen no involvement from Lukashenko other than his offering to host peace talks in Minsk.
This madman theory is probably the optimal strategy for a country trying to remain relevant, a dictator trying to stay in power, an evil force invading another country. Those close to Putin say he cares about his country so let’s hope he cares enough not to use nuclear weapons, he knows full well it would mean wiping Russia off the map. Mutually assured destruction.
I read recently about how for years Putin worked hard on his image, trying to make out he was just an ordinary person like everyone else, a man of the people. Everything seen recently of him has been living in luxury in opulent palaces talking down to everyone. This can’t be going well for him, internally.
Short summary of the military situation in Ukraine 👇🧵
Russia has moved around 75% of its forces it had previously deployed along the U. borders into 🇺🇦 (per US DoD). Appears that only a fraction of these have been engaged in combat yet.🇷🇺 forces are massing for assault on Kyiv.
🇷🇺 forces are in the process of regrouping, getting re-supplied, a. adapting to 🇺🇦 attacks. While 🇷🇺 are still committing tactical blunders, there are signs emerging that 🇷🇺 have abandoned their "mad dashes" to occupy key territory without support and coordinate better.
Expect to see more 🇷🇺combined arms maneuver/combat in coming days; heavier reliance on ground-based fires/more use of airpower. As others have pointed out, we will likely see BTGs fighting as whole units. Alas, this means we are entering a much deadlier phase of the conflict.
A 40 mile convoy may sound scary and it is, but the reality is it won't be all combat troops. There ll (normally) be a mix of unit types and some will be supply or whatever, although that doesn't appear to be a strong point of Russian logistics right now. The number to be concerned about is the size of the fighting element.
Those saying it's an easy target for petrol bombs are missing the picture. Petrol bombs may be easy to deploy in built up areas not so much in the open where you need to get up close and personal with the target. You would have to assume the Russians are slowly learning the Ukrainian tactics.
Same with the idea the Ukrainian air force can rock up and drop sh1t on it. Unless they have local air superiority then this is a big ask. The convoy should have organic air defence elements and it's a basic tenet that top cover be provided.
Could easily have been a decision to husband air assets and deal with the ground forces once they are in a built up area where the defenders have the advantage.
In some ways this is how the Iraqi army tried to stop the American forces in 03 and it worked to a point.
Thanks for that. One to watch
Thing is Putin has already undertaken an act of war by invading an independent country.
Putin in turn has ordered that Russia's nuclear forces be put on high alert because he claims other countries have made 'aggressive statements" and initiated economic sanctions.
Truely ironic then he sees the response to him declaring effective war on Ukraine and its people, as being 'aggressive" but not his own actions.
A veritable madman at the helm.
🇺🇦 An official, bluechecked account run by the ukrainian government & representing the ukrainian armed forces is claiming that ukrainian pilots will be flying combat missions from the territory of poland. if true, this is pretty much an act of war by an EU country.
Propaganda, but still worrying.
If the Ukraine still has air assets it can bring to the fight, I'd say the US is scoring the vicinity of the convoy to check what protection it had in order for Ukraine to take it out.
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