Brave to be at such a high vantage point (presumably a residential apartment block), when indiscriminate bombardment is taking place.
I just put them on Ignore although I see I only have a max of 50 that I can do that too, so might be up against the limit soon.
I think there is great information and discussion on here, hopefully it can remain so.
Corruption exists in Ireland.
Corruption exists in all other countries.
Therefore, Ireland is equally as corrupt as all countries with corruption.
Sound logic.
I worry that if the Russians can't get a "victory" in Ukraine, they'll just obliterate the place.
I would say also tons of real time info given from America etc. to the Ukrainian military. No way all those Russian convoys would of been taken out otherwise. I say that has been a major game changer for the Ukrainians.
Your money won't reach its intended destination, it'll be taken.
You sure do make mistakes pal.
Bertie and mobile phone licences? You're way out of your depth.
Many people in thread are now basically admitting, without realising it, that they don't know anything about Ukraine.
Latest footage of Kharkiv not good. Seems there has been a significant attack at the same time both sides are meeting.
looks like the carpet bombing of Kharkiv is taking place
You'll generally find theres a few accounts that just run interference, spam threads and try drag the topic into unrelated arguments or personal exchanges.
See if you can spot them 😀
Ukrainian interior ministry adviser Anton Herashchenko on Facebook
Kharkiv has just been massively fired upon by grads (rockets). Dozens of dead and hundreds of wounded.
Also The Vatican offering to mediate.
The Vatican is willing "to facilitate" a dialogue between Ukraine and Russia to end the war, Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin said Monday.
Looks like maybe the Russians are taking more of a siege mentality to cities, and bypassing them to connect corridors of land instead
We were a basket case in 1974. And again in 2008.
Time for us to step up and welcome in our Ukrainian friends, offering them all assistance.
Apparently very heavy Grad strikes (multiple rocket launchers) on Kharkov this morning, reports of many dead and injured
117th in the world is abysmal for a European country.
it has been a decent thread for news and info on the situation, but yeah I'm starting to notice the whataboutery club kicking in and it going down that route, pity
Would be more up to date and useful, I think.
You are inspiring me to send more. I thought my opinion of you coudn't get much lower, but hey, I make mistakes.
Speaking of corruption; Bertie, brown enevelopes, mobile phone licences, etc, etc - pot, kettle, black.
I think people will find Ukraine had 30 years of pro-Russian presidents and politicians that did all the damage corruption wise. The Orange revolution was not that long ago and sorting out the countries corruption cant be done overnight. Most pro-Russia countries are a basket case of corruption as that is the way Russia wants them as they can be labelled a failed state as soon as they break away. No Pro Russian country anywhere on earth is a free democratic and just economy as that is not something Russia can tolerate.
Cyprus is a member.
Although I do agree that fast-tracking membership in this way is a bad precedent to set. Especially for countries with as much institutional baggage as Ukraine but who've been candidates for years.
This thread is going down various discussion routes now as the invasion becomes normalised. The updates/propaganda from what's happening on the ground are becoming less frequent. Do seperate threads need to be created?
Last I looked it appeared that the eastern Ukrainians were at risk of being encircled by a Russian landbridge. They might be at the point of having to fall back.
Is there any sign of the pledged aircraft in the skies above Ukraine yet?
Have Belarus officially got boots on the ground now with their paratroopers?
Russians have been stockpiling gold the past decade too, and while theyve had significant foreign currency reserves frozen, they have been moving most of their foreign reserve away from dollar for a while. Euro though is a big blow, back in June they had planned to move their wealth funds from 30% dollar to close to 0%
Leave him off. Poland have enough of their own issues but even the Ukraine make them look civilized. I wouldn't be fast tracking the Ukraine into Europe. We have had too many basket cases before like Greece for example.
If you wanted to kick countries out of the EU based on their politicians' appearance on the Panama papers, there wouldn't be a country left in the EU. Tax avoidance by elites is icky, but it's not illegal. It is a problem much bigger than any individual politician you care to name.
As a pretext to denying Ukraine accession to the EU particularly under these crisis conditions where a rapid response is essential, it should be firmly filed in the 'whatabout' column
The election of Zelensky was partly fuelled by a rejection of the old oligarchical ways however and Ukraine is and was moving in the right direction.
twas a mistype since edited. :)
That a mistype or are you arguing Ukrainians would be better off in Russian than the EU?
That's largely my opinion too. I'd be open to starting the membership process but granting immediate membership would be quite a poor idea. I would think also we could focus on the invasion by Russia now and corruption later.
You would be stretching credibility to its limit and undermining every metric, if you argue that Ukranians would have a better standard of living and more importantly, more liberty in the EU than they would in Russia.
🤣 Yeah, land of liberty and economic greatness is our friend Russia. Unless that is a typo and you meant "wouldn't have a better....", then that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen written. Russia has the GDP of Spain and is an oligarchy.
This brought a chuckle
Well the Polish president is in favour of it
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