For example: Leaf, Zoe, i3, Ionic, etc.
Depends on your interest.
i3 is a great car to drive. I loved mine!
What is she driving at the moment? How many km does she do a day/week/month? £650 a month on petrol thats over 400 litres of petrol, 40 litres would more than fill my Toyota Prius.
130km worst range, winter cold, full 120km/h gps speed. Typically 160km+ more if you keep speed below 120km.
It's ok if those limits suit your commute and weekend trips. I had a 110km commute so I saved a fortune on fuel
Charging to 80% would take 40-45 minutes vs 20-25 in the 28. It's slower in the 38 because it is a 350v pack not 400v, and because the charge curve tapers super early slowing down the speed
If you never do more than 220-240km in a day then it's a non issue.
Ioniq 28
Thanks for your response. Question: how long is glacially slowly and why so? Wouldn’t we be charging it at night at home? And if needing to fast charge couldn’t we just charge the 38 model to 80%? We would be charging 99% of the time at home, I’m sure of it.
The 28 charges to 69kW and maintains a good curve all the way to 85%. You can do 20-94% in 25 minutes. I've done it myself.
The 38 gains about 50km range due to the larger battery, but, as it's a battery pack from the 39kWh Kona which is in itself the same as the 64kWh minus a couple of modules, the resulting voltage drop and conservative battery charge curve, means it charges super slowly meaning even 20-80% (let alone 20-94) takes 40-45 minutes.
Most of the Irish Ioniq 38 dont even have the same spec as the 28, eg adaptive cruise.
Why the 28 over the 38? AutoExpress lauded the 38 as a big improvement.
Ihave owned a leaf 24, ioniq 28, tesla model S 90d , and now I/m back in another Ioniq 28 albeit herself's one. I'm waiting to replace the Tesla with another one shortly so we'll be a 2 EV household, currently my car is a 2004 vw touran .
At that money 20-23k you're not going to get something with longer range. The leaf40 has similar real world range to the Ioniq28 - but it doesnt have CCS and charges much slower on Chademo. Zoe is a smaller car and again charges slowly. To get something significantly better than Ioniq28 you'd need to spend 30-33k and get an eniro/esoul used or a used Tesla model S.
I would avoid the newer Ioniq 38 as it charges glacially slowly, avoid the leaf as it only has chademo and has rapidgate issues making it impractical for longer journeys, and the zoe , while a great car, is much smaller than the others and has a 0 ncap score.
What makes you feel so strongly? Curious. And if you don’t mind, can you name the various EVs you have owned and what your thinking is like about it all. Thx. My problem with Ioniq28 is the range (what real-world range you getting on one charge?). Yes it has fast-charging, but don’t want to stop to charge and with some more range I’d never have to.
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If “other” mention which one in a comment.
It depends on your needs. Firstly what is your daily commute round trip in km? What is your typical weekend long drive round trip in km?
The Zoe 50 possibly has longest range but ccs is not a standard option and it therefore can be slow to charge on long motorway trips. It's also a relatively small car. Do you regularly carry people in rear seats or bring large bags to airport or on holidays?
Do you have access to a second car for longer trips? EVs make sense for 99% of trips but on very long trips beyond their range you need to stop and try find a public charger not in use. This could mean a 1 hour stop at motorway services, not ideal or multiple stops on an Irish holiday. It's the most frustrating part of owning an EV.
What do you drive at the moment? For some people it may make sense to hold off until longer range EVs are in the lower price range. All these cars are in the 100km to 250km range, while more expensive cars are in the 300-400km range. It may not suit you to be limited to 50-100km from home, without needing to public charge.
I would pick the 28kWh ioniq over the 40kWh leaf, but it depends on circumstances, and prices of used models reflect that.
Do you have your own driveway, do you own your own house, can you get a home chargepoint?
Yes don't get the 38,get the 28, and pay 18-20k max.
Well I wouldn't pay 23k for an Ioniq (I paid that 3 years ago). 2017-2019 are all the same spec so anything more than the cheapest one on Donedeal and you're paying for warranty and/or less mileage, and the 2020 car is rubbish in its electric aspects (slow charging, meh size battery/range for the price).
We're on our second. Couldnt suggest anything better.
For that amount you'd get a Zoe ze 50, or a 40kw leaf , if you look around you'll get an ionic , that's 3 decent choices ...
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