What opinion did I not like - you offered no opinion. I was talking about the poor treatment Aoife Moore was receiving from Sinn Fein supporters, you came back with a "yeah but Garda caution blah blah blah". It was plain deflection, no questions asked
Of course they wouldn't but what do you expect from a government supporter.
Deflection? How so? If SF had the Garda caution a critic you'd be okay? Same topic.
The idea that anyone with an opinion you don't like is employed by SF and working from a script is amusing to me.
Next level deflection there, we'll done on sticking to the script
if that is happening it will be a very tiny minority, the type who if they supported another party would be at the same thing.
they do not represent sf or it's supporters so are not our problem.
not yet, but sf will and will make history.
I don't know who pissed in your cornflakes but don't take your little tantrum out on me.
I'm referring to when a NY blogger made comments about a minister online and the Garda met her at the airport and cautioned her. I was asking the poster was that the kind of thing he feared? Not sure why your knickers got knotted.
Yes. They do seem to show a bias. The dawn raid on Paul Murphy comes to mind. The harassment of Clare Daly. The treatment of the whistle-blower etc.
All above board I imagine or are you accusing the Garda of turning a blind eye? I hope not. We've some very shady parties in government as is.
I wouldn't be surprised if Garda support for a sfira gov was very limited .
More than anyone garda management knows what lies beneath sf having fought them the years
I see the only army out defending Eoin as he made an honest mistake. That's all it is, an honest mistake. Fair play to him for sorting it out so quickly.
Now as for the online army would they be so forgiving if it was a FF TD who made an honest mistake
Critical comment is a very strange way of describing harassment.
Yet again the weasel words to try and downplay yet another example of online harassment by Sinn Fein supporters.
I guess in the brave new world Brucie dreams of victims will be denied protection from their harassers depending on their politics
Calm down. If you want to be pedantic fine, I didn't use quotation marks, so why are you lying?
She wanted them "deprogrammed" incase they were infected with the isis. Now where or how was this to happen do you think?
Verona Murphy never said that. Why lie to try to score points?
Would you think that if SF got in they'd have the Garda waiting at the airport to caution someone made a critical comment?
They did a great job laying down their arms, murdering on duty detective guard and detonating two bombs in England🙄
I think you over estimate SF. We traditionally have many floating voters. SF are popular because FF/FG are so bad. No 'converts'.
Agree its more about housing than Bobby Sands. That said, every party has their heroes.
My thesis is that most 'new' SF voters in the Republic have minimal interest in the National Question. IMO paying respect to former IRA 'activists' is far down the list of why these 'converts' are now voting for the party.
Did you vote for the GFA, and if so, did you read it through, and were aware the possibility of future government members having conflict related convictions?
Im not party affiliated either way, but it will surely be the most naive only from any present day government members that make any noise about this, considering we took part in the GFA negotiations, agreed to implement them, when we signed up to them.
We cant pretend we werent fully aware this was a possibility, just because sinn fein seem to be edging towards power, we are either onboard with what we signed up to, or we are not.
Ah does the murders of Father Molloy, Pat Nugent and Mary Boyle spring to mind? And as for Paedo's does Grace and Sara spring to mind? https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/dismay-expressed-at-decision-not-to-prosecute-hse-in-grace-case-1.4802119
Also lets not forget about The Stardust disaster.
All done, under the watch of FF or FG.
I am not a supporter of SF at all, especially given their moves to restrict the right to protest, I'm aware that many in the first Dail and subsequent Dails had criminal convictions.
Just go up a few posts to the story from aoife moore about Eoin OBroins expense mistake. She is being called all sorts of things by sinn fein supporters in the comments, a government mouthpiece etc etc. I
IT was a fairly innocuous mistake by obroin and the money has been paid back, aoife Moore wrote a factual piece about that, but that is not enough for the provisional online army.
Like trump supporters, they feel sinn fein should get a free pass and any article not fully behind them means you are an enemy of the cause, a government mouthpiece, part of the conspiracy against SF etc etc and can't be trusted.
Demonising the free press for reporting articles that are unfavourable - thats another one on the list
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As unpalatable as it might be, we demanded that Sinn Fein/IRA take the route of constitutional politics and they're now in Government in the North. We can't have one rule for the North and another for the South.
On the plus side, Sinn Fein in Government might be the solution to the current wave of thuggery and anti-social behaviour in the South. A few wallops of iron bars and nail studded baseball bats might be just the thing for the ever growing legion of 100+ conviction scummers terrorising pensioners etc., since successive Governments here have given up on anything other than token law and order enforcement.
For many it says that they dedicated their lives to service of their country and its defense and were willing to risk death or life imprisonment for that.
You probably disagree.
Most won't care either way.
SF have former IRA among its number. Shocking I know.
Their shadow cabinet would be their ministers if they got in.
I'm looking forward to any sort of change from FF and FG in politics and am not particularly fussy who is in government once it is not them.
FF destroying the economy with the housing crash and FG selling out the youth is far worse in my view than what SF might do with senior appointments. I think people who still vote FF and FG haven't done particularly badly financially the last twenty years.
I'm not affiliated with any political party and just vote based on my personal view at the time of the election and how I think the next four years should look.
The QE system is the magic bean system. People who were complaining about SF's 'magic beans' in February 2020 put almost the entirity of the real economy on subsidies in March 2020.
Right or wrong (its wrong) you can spend infinitely if you run up debts infinitely.
nobody has suggested anything of the sort.
hmm, an old but inactive account reappearing to post on a SF thread and in some details as well. interesting.
Opinions evolve.
People who were charged with IRA activities will not have a problem from most of the electorate.
Quite a few TDs, Ministers etc, many elected reps and leaders across Europe in the last 80 years have fought in conflicts.
It's also a key part of the Good Friday agreement, suggest up to by the Irish government.
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/36/schedule/enacted/en/html
5. The Governments continue to recognise the importance of measures to facilitate the reintegration of prisoners into the community by providing support both prior to and after release, including assistance directed towards availing of employment opportunities, re-training and/or re-skilling, and further education.
Unless the present day Irish government thinks it can pick and choose what parts of the agreement or wasn't really serious about when they agreed and signed up to, I can't see why anyone who voted to accept the terms of the Good Friday agreement would have an issue with it
I still can't believe that you can be a TD with criminal convictions. I would allow some degree of tolerance for minor traffic offences but as for the rest it says a lot about their character.
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