More importantly there are legal and liability issues to contend with for "free speech". It doesn't and can't exist without consequence. You're free to racially abuse someone for example, but there are consequences.
Parler is as heavily moderated as anywhere else and regularly bans users they dont like, no reasons need to be given.
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And if Parler get sued for something a user posted (and this is mental), that user is liable aswell.
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Oh and its also full of the thickest people on the planet.
It seems to me that we are still in this 2 way dichotomy way of thinking with the squeezed sensible middle having to pick their team. I do hope that in time that mid segment will have a voice and get louder. I actually think those people which includes myself are there in great numbers but largely ignored. It seems the old 'sensible' is now regarded as the reactionairy right. I think i still hold the same political views as i have but simply find myself more in agreement with moderate conservatives( if they still exist) who are in fact quite close to old school liberals like Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris. You know, intelligent people who can hold a proper argument and conversation despite the individual differences. In short, people with a backbone.
The JR issue is a bit of a side show but he has given these people space to display their intelligence and i think that is where the opposition is most afraid of, not anything JR has said or done. It is quilty by association. If they can silence JR (which they cant) they might be able to silence those affiliated (which they wont). It is a battle they cant win. Never mind, as long as they can feel good about themselves which is all that matters.
I see another comedian Jimmy Carr is on the chopping block now too. It really requires a special idiot to get offended by something a comedian said.
Carr would be one of my favorite and I've been to a number of his shows and each time he has a segment where he purposely says the edgiest joke to gauge the audience.
Ultimately it always filters down to the same thing - a number on a piece of paper.
If Spotify was to cancel their contract with JR, not only would they have to eat their $100m but they would lose the largest, hardest-to-reach and most coveted demographic in the media - young men. They would also drive that audience directly into the hands of competitors like Rumble or Substack.
I admire the boss of Spotify for standing by Rogan and retaining a sense of perspective.
Too many corporate bosses capitulate at the first whiff of trouble like this. It's refreshing to see someone in power with a spine. Of course he is doing it with financial objectives in mind, but very often people in those positions just fear the controversy and don't even bother looking at it objectively. They just want to make it go away asap and they throw their workers under the bus.
Some religious halfwit on Niall Boylan earlier saying he believes in free speech and people should be able to joke about anything they want, but not the Catholic Church because hes very religious.
Where do you draw the line at outright bigotry? That doesn't sound like freedom to me!
Mainly, I think, because why would the new 'left' leave a bubble created and curated (or moving towards a singular cultural view) for their views.
Yep.
'Woke' safetyism crosses party lines - at it's essence it's a tool of the powerful (left, centre and right nowadays) to reduce freedoms cheered on by people who, in the case of JC's bit, simply don't get a joke.
If Parler is the blueprint than I think this free speech platform would probably become just an American right wing echo chamber. A bit like a slightly more adult version of 4chan. I think Jordan Peterson tried to create a left and right wing talking ship type website but the interest as just not there.
Parler was de-platformed. That is why we need a different, independent platform. Not the dark web as such but simply one with a wider net. You know, the one we used to have with a proper amount of freedom. You can even have a discussion amongst group members where the boundaries lie like in a, well you know, democracy where the angry mob and moral crusaders cant get to you. Where the online Politburo cannot armwrestle weak politicians to make idiotic statements that have consequences. To quote:" keep on rocking in the free world"!
No need to accept pornography or outright bigotry..
That was just a statement of fact. What Jimmy Carr said (out of context) was hate speech.
I thought Parler was supposed to be this? Or wasn't Trump coming up with some new platform? I see a conservatives minister was coming out against Jimmy Carr for his Gypsy joke saying it would banned under hate speech legislation so it does seem to have gone mainstream in even the UK and not just the Left involved.
They already have it. Called the dark web. And its really dangerous.
You're delusional if you think that'll work. Take a look at any "free speech" website. Overrun by edgelords promoting hitler, "legal" child porn etc. Google runs due to advertising. Who wants to advertise on a platform that will be known for that?
I'm surprised some other Podcaster hasn't started eating into Joe's listenership. As big as his show is, it's not rocket science, and he's nothing special. He'll even say that himself.
It'll be interesting where the podcast space in general goes. A passing fad perhaps, although I do enjoy them myself.
The way it is going with cancel culture and hate speech legislation overall there is a space for an independent platform on the internet separate from the Google infrastructure via the Playstore (banned platforms). Some have suggested Elon Musk should set it up and invite JR as a first player with many to follow. If Google refuses to let people have access via their Android phones and/or the phone companies themselves that would be another niche market for Elon, a kind of Apple like based system. Could work unless the people trying to put legislation in to police the internet get their way which would be the final nail in the coffin of free speech..
Nah Rogan is the one they want
Ironically, if he gets binned by Spotify he'll actually probably grow his listenership, as it's at least slightly limited now by having a platform-wall. He owns the show itself, so if he parts ways with Spotify you could see him moving to an ad-based model across the whole range of podcast platforms, and reaching more people.
Howard stern will be next for the chopping block once they are done with Rogan.
his laughing at the comedian who coerced women to blow him is fairly **** behaviour. He’s lucky to avoid a bigger backlash at the time for that.
I listen to plenty of pods, I pretty much hate joe rogan, I find him a boring interviewer who ruins a good format by not being a very good conversationalist. The constant same topics being trawled over; hunting, DMT, survivalism, fitness, combat, California being too liberal and badly governed, conspiracies. I don’t see curiousity about the world from him. Just curiously and faith in a limited scope of topics.
It’s a poor reflection of modern culture that this is the biggest podcast in the world. I believe in free speech but personally I couldn’t shed any tears if he’s done.
I don’t know what caused it and nothing would surprise me or any other vaccinated non conspiracy person I’d imagine
Joe and the primate expert really sums covid info in the last few years up.
A podcaster shouting down and telling an expert in her field that she's wrong because he did his own research online.
Wonder if he ever apologised to her?
Hopefully he will get a guy like this on again soon after Rogan's recent "will do better" video
No, there's nothing missing.
The comedian guy was exploiting people desperate for a break and the Rogan fella was whooping and laughing at the thought of it.
Google it yourself. I was not sure if it was the same fella, but it is. He has been very dismissive and disrespectful to women on his "show! as the clip about the primate expert showed earlier.
Seems a bit of a knob and now a tinfoil hat wearing knob.
You've called him having a huge audience an issue..
Come on..you know what you're doing..
And you're too stupid to see the consequences..
Well, you are obviously doubling down like so many, deaf and blind to reasonable assertions. Dismiss him at your peril. The Trump effect will kick in. I fully expect his support to grow fuelled by the likes of you, especially in the areas outside the US..
OK. Just link to the post where I called for censorship.
Of course he's an entertainer. He's not just a guy having chats that interest him. He's employed to get as many clicks as possible. Controversy sells. Conspiracy theorist, sell. He isn't paid to be an educator or peddle good Information, he's paid to peddle whatever information gets the clicks. Alex Jones spouting gibberish will sell better than some sober discussion of reality.
The narrative about JR just being an honest broker, a lone wolf, lost in the savage world of the crooked media, is bonkers. He's a member of the broader media, who peddles in whatever sells, including conspiracy theories.
Expecting to be immune form accusations of peddling conspiracy theories because he just has the conspiracy theorists on his show, is bonkers.
But Jones never got into the q stuff..
Your entire viewpoint is based on fabrication..if you don't have a clue what you're talking about why are you here calling for censorship?..really..
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