This question goes out those who took the 2 jabs? Will you you take it to get back to normality? Or are you sick of the government moving the goalposts constantly?
I had my booster last Sunday (Had an additional vaccine rather than a booster in October because of health issues). They checked with me as to when I had had my last vaccine. They asked if I'd had Covid recently as well. I'd personally be inclined to wait. Is there a reason why you want a booster so quickly? From my reading of things, and I'm happily open to correction, actually having Covid along with both initial vaccines, gives you a huge amount of protection.
Were you registered as having tested positive? If so, there is a possibly a record on the system, so you might run into a bit of bother. But that's mere speculation on my behalf.
Who is forcing you to take it?
No one should be forced to take the vaccines until we have long term studies proving their safety.
Currently we do not know if these vaccines cause issues down the road. I know the risk is very small, but it is still an unknown.
My understanding is I am not in a risk group (young-ish, fit, healthy, not overweight) so no booster is necessary.
No one described themselves like that but it does take courage to go against the heavy policing, heavy propaganda, heavy enforcement that we have had. Much easier to stfu and do what you're told by Big Brother 😉
Don't be silly.
Yeah, it's huge
Why would you go against health advice!
Maybe I’m wrong but Isn’t it the case that they don’t advise 3 jabs and infection in a short space of time because they aren’t sure of the effects of that. It’s a lot to put on the immune system surely!
People losing their freedoms is not a big deal to you?
Suddenly, it is a buyer's market. You wouldn't have to queue, that is for certain. The only thing stopping you would be yourself.
As for mandatory injections, it depends what your definition of mandatory is.
Does your employer demand it? If not, then there is no coercion involved.
If it is policy within the organisation you work for to be vaccinated/boosted, such as a school or a hospital, then boosters are going to be hard to avoid, regardless whether they are legally required or policy to have them.
Does your health insurance demand it? That is going to be interesting going forward. If they stipulate you need it to qualify, then yah, thats something you can't easily ignore. Does a hospital demand it before you go in for a procedure? Will they in the future? Watch other EU countries for perspective.
The dropping of the covid pass is a massive loosening of restriction, and will almost certainly influence the numbers presenting for a booster, albeit those who don't mind remaining in Ireland for the foreseeable future.
If you want to travel abroad, then you will need your wee booster...ad infinitum by the looks of things.
Pick mandatory and free will out of the above.
Quick question. I know that it's advised to wait 3 months to get a booster after having COVID. But if I were to turn up for a booster after 2 months for example is there anything to stop me getting it?
Thanks in advance
Still no mandatory vaccination in this country AFAIK. People who dont want a vaccine constantly compare themselves to brave warriors who believe they are being frog marched to jab centres. Its not mandatory, you're not Gandhi.
Imo massive govt scare campaigns, massive msm scare campaigns, loss of freedoms and threats of even more extreme measures are force.
Yes if you are brave, you can refuse but losing your job is not an easy or a happy "choice".
Natural immunity is real, not sure why you think I was implying otherwise (otherwise how would vaccines work at all?), the fallacy is the loopers thinking that encountering a virus without a vaccine or booster and gaining immunity that way is somehow better than having had a vaccine or booster, that isn't the case, you're always better off being vaccinated beforehand as your risks from encountering the virus are much lower due to your immune system being able to react more quickly (you may fight off the virus before it has a chance to replicate and never get infected, for example), vaccine immunity is also more consistent than virus acquired immunity which can be dependent on the viral load encountered.
There's a lot of moon worshippers out there pushing the "natural immunity" route, they are certified idiots (and you can have other reasons not to take the vaccine understanding that your risk when encountering a virus is greater and not be under the false belief that gaining immunity naturally is a better way to do it, it's a very very stupid way to do it).
Exactly, summer tourism is big driver for many EU states and younger people who like their w/e breaks more likely not to have taken a 3rd vaccine. Things going the way they are, we'll see the pressure come on to accept any vaccine cert I reckon, if at all.
If it is "up to you to say no" then they arent really being "forced" are they....
You've been forced to take the 1st 2, now you're being forced to take this one. Don't forget you have to sign away to the fact that you are willingly taking this stuff and aren't being forced, yet thats exactly what is happening. It's up to you to say no, if this turns out to be bad for you...a job is only a job, your health is your life 👍
Now that is a game changer.
Politicians.
No, the CDC are.
CDC: Natural Immunity Offered Stronger Protection Against COVID Than Vaccines During Delta Wave - Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org)
On Wednesday, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) provided new research showing that, during the recent Delta wave, individuals who had previously contracted COVID-19 had more protection against the virus than those who had been vaccinated.
Astrofool did not think natural immunity is 'real'. Hence my reply which you decided to ignore so can I ask you - do you 'believe' in it?
No scientists.
"Natural immunity happens after you get infected by a germ and your immune system responds by making antibodies to it. The infection could make you sick. But if you’re exposed to that germ in the future, your body’s defenses spot it and fight back with antibodies. This makes you less likely to get infected again."
Is this from your friends who say they were duped?
From what I've heard its better.
Duped? Who duped them?
Many ppl i know who got the double vaxx are not enthusiastic about the booster, between feeling they've been duped and adverse reactions many are not interested.
Are you claiming natural immunity after an infection offers the same degree of immunity as a vaccine?
Relaxed a bit (hospitality and culture open until 10, quarantine for children relaxed) but not completely, and under the proviso that this will be reviewed in 3 weeks. They stressed last night that they are not saying that the emergency is over and restrictions could be put back in place on a whim if the OMT (NPHET equivalent) advice leads to it. QR code needed for everyone over 13 to access things aswell.
Go on then - explain how natural immunity after recovery from a virus is not real.
Boosters aren't approved for 12-15 last I checked, where did you hear that?
Though this "natural immunity" belief some people have is a bit loopy (and scientifically wrong, but alas).
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