Entering this forum lately
I haven't listened yet, but noticed the victim complex creeping into everything. Talking about men who feel they're personally attacked and are somehow offended by discussions like this.
Another person who wants to live in an echo chamber.
i have, it’s a discussion about harassment, women feeling unsafe, sports representation, WhatsApp groups, a college programme about these issues, same sex schools and another four or so issues I’m forgetting.
its not about the Aisling Murphy case or any issue that is likely to have had anything to do with how she met her fate.
I really don't understand why some men get so angered by the discussion and the idea of self reflecting and thinking how you personally could treat women better and calling out toxic behaviour.
What's wrong with being more empathetic and treating other people with respect
When you tell an entire gender to do the above you group together people that are already empathetic and treat others with respect with those that are disrespectful and potentially violent. Treating men as one homogenous group. It all seems rather patronizing.
Judging from your name you are from Waterford. If someone from Waterford attacks someone from Kildare should we ask that people from Waterford do some self reflecting, treat Kildare people better and call out toxic Deise-icity? It certainly wouldn't enter my mind to ask anyone to do that because it's ridiculous.
Well that was a whole episode I missed, not for me. But thankfully the world didn't burn down and Doddlers still gave some value for my 5 snoots a month.
Some ppl seem really angry that other ppl criticised this episode are ye ok? Ye seem really angry. Post in another forum maybe.
^ cheap rhetorical style worth nothing, lads, not really adding much
The people criticising the episode didn't listen to it. Or if they did they are misrepresenting what was said on it.
I haven't listened to many of the pods over the past two weeks (just cos I haven't had the chance).
What was Ken saying about Man City? Was he saying it's boring and no one cares about them or something?
Essentially, yes, tho he explained why with a fair bit of depth I thought at least
Souless/boring. Which it is.
Or you could just think "yes I'm part of that group but I already treat people with respect and empathy, however I acknowledge that there are some in the group who don't". Rather than pissing and moaning about it.
Just listened, yup, quite a good pod. I mean, it's largely (one would have thought!) reasonably common sense stuff, focusing heavily on the positive influence people can have rather than engaging in any vilification. There really is absolutely nothing here for anyone to be upset or offended by.
It's great that SC can do something like this though, since their listenership is exactly the demographic that can most benefit from hearing it.
I hope next week's Pod features how the Slovakian people(both women and men) need to, as a group, question what this murder means to them, and what their part by simply being Slovakian means to them.
Cool, look forward to seeing that applied to all groups of people.
Edit. I do do the above already. I never said there wasn't men who don't treat people with respect our empathy.
Same here, but you'd think they we in the process of changing legislation on what men can think and do the way some people were going on about it. I gave it 20 minutes and skipped to doddles
I'd become completely jaded with the social media (and some mainstream media) coverage of this, so I'll admit I was a bit meh when I saw the episode pop up on my feed.
Having said that, the conversation from yesterday was probably the most balanced and least divisive I've heard on the topic so far.
That's not to say I agree 100% with everything that was said but this sort of inclusive and informed dialogue undoubtedly has more value than the hysterical 'debate' that we've all seen and heard during the last week.
The podcast would have been improved imho by not having Murph and Sinead O'Carroll on...both had very little to add apart from vague generalisations and barely relevant anecdotes.
As others have mentioned, I'd be interested in hearing Richie Sadlier's take on it at some point given his general expertise and experience in the area
I'd second that. While I don't agree with everything about the framing of the wider debate and the bluntness of some of the assertions I've come across in the media over the last week, I did think the conversation yesterday was a good one in its own right.
If someone hasn't listened yet but they intend to, can you count how many times the phrase "a conversation needs to be had..." comes up?
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Strange Ken doesn’t count penalties or champions league goals when talking about Ronaldo…. Especially when he is all about “facts and figures”
A very selective approach to fit his narrative
We know it's not all men but it's all men
Enjoyed today's episode part from the bit about Ronaldo and his 6 goals. Wasn't really sure what his point was.
Listened to Wednesday's pod when out for a walk yesterday. It was a good pod generally I though - certainly not worthy of some of the criticism it was receiving (generally from people who weren't going to listen to it I think). I do think there is potential for a better format to it - maybe Richie speaking to people who have suffered through instances like were being discussed. It might create a bit more awareness vs some of the hypotheticals which come up in these conversations generally.
the football pod was a classic
Last two pods were a welcome return.
Yeah, cause how dare they spare a day for a bit of a chat on gender equality and respect every thousand pods or so.
They can do it but I can criticise it whether you like it or not. Enjoy your weekend.
You seem quite sensitive to anyone offering an opinion that differs from yours. I don't think the lads at SC need you in here defending their decision making.
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