I have a car garaged this past 4-5 years, thinking getting it out on road again, made error by not declaring it off the road, will I need a new owner to get tax up to date? Not paying 5 years arrears for a car that hasnt left garage. Do I supposedly buy it back then? U sure won't get letter from tax office wanting arrears? Seen an article in paper a couple were caught doing this and had pay arrears
If you think that's bad.
I had a guy come into me when I worked in motor tax who had brought a motorbike into the country, registered it but never got around to building it 10 years previously
Yea but is there a normal way around this? Car hasn't been near a road in 5 years, sitting in garage, had it for sale at start 5 years ago, asked in tax office guy said new owner will get updated tax disc, but ended up taking advert down and still sitting here untaxed and not delacred off Rd. I'd tax it again for 3 months yearly and on off etc, if there was a way to update tax:(
Yes sell it to a friend for 2 weeks to take the stress off yourself, then buy it back and the arrears will be erased.
Sell it to a friend but he needs to declare off road at the time of transfer of ownership. go into the MTO in person for this or post everything into them together . The same process when you buy it back.
Why would the friend need to declare the car off the road? They will just be selling the car back in a few days, and have no motor tax concerns in the interim.
I was thinking of selling to to said friend and then they tax it for 3 months and I buy it back off them during the next 3 months, don't understand why I'd have to go into tax office with everything or friend declaring it off road right away? Thought make more sense for friend to get new tax disc for car once new owners papers arrive?
If you didn't want to have to tax it, it needs to be declared off road upon transfer of ownership
Yea don't mind updating tax disc just hopeing when buy it back it doesn't bring up a red flag and end up getting letter re 5 years tax!
Sign it over to your Irish Name ,Job done
As someone who has people come in to the hatch looking for me to stamp the form like the good old days they have been advised that IF the car happens to aquire a new owner then the tax owed will be cleared and should that 'new' owner change their mind and return it to the 'original seller' then they also will be clear of any tax owed.
I hope most who come in can read between the lines without me spelling it out for them.
It's a loop hole in our shi*e motor tax system so it's fair game. Different deal if I were to come across the car with 6 months tax missing out and about though...
I have not taxed my car with 3 years and it is still driving grand!!
Why are you trying to complicate things for yourself and your friend?
The friend does NOT need to tax the car before selling it back to you.
Cause the current tax disc is 2017 and I'm glovebox and would prefer a newer 2022 tax disc and on window, so would get my friend to tax it when he-she buys it
Glovebox, whatever.
If you want him to tax it before selling it back, try to time it so that they get the full 3 months tax or as close to it as possible.
Why not just wait until you buy it back to tax it? That is by far the simplest way to do it. Again, time it so you get as much of the 3 months tax as possible.
Yea gonna do it that way, sell it, buy back, then tax it myself once it ready for nct. Does it need to be taxed to go in for nct?
You can NCT an untaxed car no problem. If you know it needs work to pass the test, get this done before you buy it back if possible.
You are liable for tax from the day the car is registered in your name. If you wait for it to be back in your name before getting work done, and depending how much work and how long it will take, you will be paying tax while the car is not roadworthy.
If it was me, I'd get it NCTd first, get the fail sheet (if it fails), then get those items fixed and retest.
If you are going ahead with the plan, imo you should book the NCT first. You won't get a close date, nearest appointment could be a month or more.
ps What does 'glovebox' mean anyway? Maybe it was autocorrect?
Thanks for advice, will do that. Ah, by glovebox i meant the tax disc from 2017 is sitting in glovebox, and not on window!
Its hard to keep up with what tax scams are allowed on boards and what one are not..
Do try.
Yeah it's easy enough actually.
Anything to do with social welfare=scum.
Cash in hand trades people is grand but landlords getting cash, no chance.
TV Licence is mixed
But motor tax scamming is definitely fair game.
Good luck op, I'm just jealous 😆
what form do you need to get done? Would you need to get a Garda to stamp an off the road form is it?
You either fill in an R150 form or you can do it online (similar to taxing the car)
The form available at Garda Stations (as well as tax office or online) but it is not a requirement to get it signed or witnessed by a Garda anymore
I've done this for a relative recently, car sat for awhile non declared off the road. Older car on the old system with over 2 grand tax arrears... I was happy to do it.
Do you have a wife?
Sell the car to yourself for a euro and make out a receipt to yourself also totally legit . Job done. Then your arrears are gone.
Well documented? Where??
Old thread but this is terrible advice and completely false. Motor tax arrears aren’t based on fake €1 receipts of someone selling a car to them self. They are based on official change of ownership dates by signing and posting the logbook.
If you want to clear motor tax arrears you do a change of ownership. Simple. None of this €1 receipt nonsense.
is the info in this thread the same, forgot to renew the off the road declaration and owe a few thousand in back tax. Lady at the counter said sell it to my wife was the only way around it. Suppose I could leave it in her name then altogether and I can just drive it if I put the classic insurance in her name as well. Is there any appeals process, I can prove it wasn’t on the road due to the mileage &nct test. Really don’t want to add unnecessary owners to it.
Yep, still the same. Transfer to your OH. I wouldn't bother transferring it back. You can declare it off the road immediately again once the change of ownership goes through.
They were to change the law last year so your declaration didn't have to be renewed but the bill didn't pass before the election.
What car is it if it's on a classic policy? is it not on the €56 rate?
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