Mandatory vaccination in Ireland

How anyone can look back on the last five years of UK and US politics and claim that they're "proper countries" is amazing.

The UK has been taken over by venal flaghumpers and the US barely survived Trump with its democracy intact.

I think the point about the 800 year old Magna Carta is that it was ahead of it's time and groundbreaking. The Magna Carta was widely considered a huge inspiration for the declaration of Independence which was also ahead of its time. I don't think the poster is saying that the Magna Carta is relevant now for vaccine mandates but I understand his point. That's my guess.

The topic of the thread is mandatory vaccination, not vaccine passports.

The "Land of the Free" is wall to wall mandatory vaccines and have been for years and have introduced wide sweeping covid mandatory vaccination.

Ireland has done no such thing or have any plans to, but we are terrible, something, something.

Aren't these just Op-ed pieces? That's not an indication of government plans. Contrary to what some posters think you can't just introduce this with a quick bit of legislation or an SI. Even if it was planned, in practice it would take months to get to that point and September next would be about as early as it might begin its passage through the Oireachtas,

In the States, larger private companies are getting hit hard this year by their health and life insurance premiums and I wouldn't be surprised if a significant majority of them mandate vaccines internally regardless of any Federal or State mandates.

How can your immune system fight a virus you have no immunity to?

Vaccines work. That’s a fact. The vaccine at present is not as effective against Omi, no problem, by March they have a new version deigned for Omi ready.

not quite unlike the flu..

The "newspaper of record" softening people up for it is significant in my opinion. Look at the Board of Trustees for the IT its a who's who of establishment people, they are hand in glove with the people who run this country.

I didn't say it would be easy to introduce or would happen overnight.

I'd say its happening rather than happened. Cases have just about peaked here in London but they are still on the up everywhere else in Europe.

All the Magna Carta did was transfer some rights from a single individual to a small group of individuals. It did f@@k for the lad ploughing the field he was still a serf or a virtual indentured slave The peasants revolts of the 1300's started the end of serfdom but it did not disappear in the UK until 1500's.

It was actually bought in by the Normans. The Celtic people of Ireland and Scotland did not have serfdom. That was why the English invasion of Ireland was opposed so much by the ordinary people.

When serfs became free in the 1500's there ability to vote was hampered unless they had rateable valuations above a limit so the house of commons was elected by the midsized landholders and country gentleman, but the house of lords still had huge sway until it power was limited by the liberals government with the King signing off on it in the early 1900's.

So your theory on the Magna Carta is just a load of rubbish

spot on, but the “the paper of record” tag is long gone. Some of the utter drivel they are printing and putting online would make the British red tops blush with embarrassment. Jeremy Kyle-esque stories and headlines. It’s shamelessly just a government promo pamphlet now mixed in with some bulky Harvey Norman or Eir garbage advertisements. Even the sports pages are sh*te now, how hard is it to get that right but they still manage to make a balls of it or have woke agenda of the week rammed down your throat in the middle of a match report from Yeovil Town vs Grimsby or some such sh*t game. Awful publication.

Huh? How could they possible know that?

I assume everyone has had a previous 'cold infection' whether vaccinated or not.