Anyone know what is his medical exception?
That's just on the plastic folder they used to give you with a new passport. Latest one's just a boring transparent sleeve.
Did an Australian public official steal your lollipop when you were a kid? Jeez, get a grip. At least they can build a state of the art childrens hospital for about half the cost the local geniuses managed, maybe less, because I think the final cost is still a state secet?.
What makes you think you can cherrypick a few isolated voices and choose to believe them because it suits you? Vaccines shorten the amount of time at peak viral load. It's in the same study from The Lancet that the anti-vaxxers are using to show that the viral load peaks out at about the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Valid scepticism would be accompanied by actual inquiry. Instead, it's just tantrums about not wanting to do even the slightest thing to help society. Millions of people have had the vaccine at this stage, there's been more research into that data than any one moron with a degree from the university of life can Google in a lifetime.
You bother engaging because you're on the defensive and want to persuade people (and maybe yourself?) that your motives aren't entirely rooted in self-interest.
posts the below and is backing the Australian government to the hilt - actual logical assumption - well couldn't be bothered then what cryptic meaning it has then tbh!
(Even though the Australian elected officials at all levels are projecting themselves as weaselling incompetents for the world to see over the last week, more focused on trying to pass blame to different parts of their own government mechanisms than anything else (State and Federal) and just deepening the faeces-filled hole that they have managed to dig for themselves)
After taking off the inverting glasses I normally wear, not a problem
I never said I work for the Australian government. Speaking of standards, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.
I've made my point on you.
Seeking to purely inflame in a trollish manner is not to be given the respect of consideration.
over and out.
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It's so interesting to observe somebody so infatuated with a sports star that they've never met that they would defend anything he has done even if it was reprehensible.
Proven trolls are not worth engaging.
All he won was a decision based on the technicality of not giving him the required time to reply so I still see this as an open case re whether he should be allowed in. It appears the judge was only deciding on that point of law.
I agree with everything in your post.
They need to just make the decision based on their existing requirements for entry.
If it's true that he made a false declaration re travel movements prior to entry' he will be going home.
yes but he is not an Aussie they have a beef with their government, he is an elite athlete who plays the tournaments professionally as his job and when hes playing, Tennis Australia make money as do Wimbledon & the US open. The aussiess need to vote in a better government & this will cause them too I hope. Some of all the polititions all over the world have gone a bit drunk on their covid powers !! Sport should not be political at alll as it is entertainment and is good for everyone to watch to enjoy & to play.
So he deliberately put people at risk of getting COVID then? Sounds like a stand up guy.
I hope that your job doesn't rely in any way on the standard of argumentation skills that you've displayed here mate.
Says he works for the Australian Government and surprisingly is backing them in global debacle that has only served to make Australian Officialdom at all levels look like a hapless bunch of incompetent ass-covering opportunists for the entire world to see!
You actually couldn't make it up.
He had an exemption granted to him by the Victorian State Government and Tennis Australia
Djokovic or the others granted the exemptions on this process wouldn't have gone near Australia otherwise
The Border Force let other people on it with the same reason in already.
The PM Morrison explicitly voice public opinion last Tuesday supporting the process to "come" to and "enter" Australia
When asked about the controversial call, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said: "Well, that is a matter for the Victorian government.
"They have provided him with an exemption to come to Australia, and so we then act in accordance with that decision."
ScoMo was then pressed on whether he thought it was the right decision to make given Australia's current climate.
"Well, that's how it works," Morrison said.
"States provide exemptions for people to enter on those basis, and that's been happening for the last two years. So there's no change to that arrangement.
"The Victorian government made their decision on that. And so I'd have to refer to the Victoria Government about their reasons for doing so."
But they Djokovic tweeted and a reaction kicked off and the politician's worried about the optics and the decision was made to target Djokovic at the airport
If you think that the tide isn't turning for many Australians in terms of their view and that they are all intent on projecting their ire at past governmental pandemic policy decisions onto Djokovic (who had nothing to do with that) you're not correct - read the informed comments underneath this article from today - genuine Australians who by now know the score
I still think that it's very much in the balance and that probably the politicians will go for "the ministerial discretion" option and boot him home but that will not work out too well either I think and will only by taken on the basis of "not looking like we backed down"
Djokovic's movements in Serbia will be addressed by him but what he did in Serbia a few weeks ago is not directly relevant to the process here, except in the heads of some.
He has the positive test and again, that hasn't proven to be fake except in the minds of wishful conspiracy thinkers.
Why should I need to prove I'm Australian?
Whoops, spelling error. How many lashes would you suggest? I don't believe the rest of that guff any more than you believe I'm an Australian.
Djokovic is a looper. You only have to look at some of the other crap he comes out with to know that he's definitely 'out there' when it comes to certain stuff that shouldn't really be up for debate (the bread under the armpit thing is frighteningly absurd). But that's no skin off anybody's nose, really.
They've had one of the harshest lockdowns in the world over there, they kept getting pushed back further over a couple of cases here and there.....literally. I think they had more cases in the first week of 2022 than they'd had in all of 2020 combined. And much like here, there's loads who were unhappy about that and loads who just got on with it. So public sentiment was pretty much divided.
Then Novax comes along and makes a mockery of the whole thing by claiming this and that and pulling dubious test results out of his arse at the last minute. The whole thing stinks, and waiting for an interview after he has successfully managed to circumvent the rules is meaningless. And that IS skin off some peoples' nose. In fact, it's borderline insulting. People had to go for months without getting a coffee or a drink in public, then this guy comes along and says "Oh, I'm exempt......sure I tested positive at some stage........what?...I have to isolate for ten days after a positive test?......well luckily mine expires just in time to play in the tournament....lucky me, I guess".
If I was an Aussie, I'd be fuming. And most of them are.
I still have no idea what was said to allow him to stay because on everything that's been presented so so far to the public, he shouldn't be. Even the stuff with his family is all besides the point. All the talk of how great he is and how he's gonna beat Federer etc is just noise. All it boils down to is:
Was he exempt, yes or no?
Did he test positive? Yes or no, if yes, then when?
Why wasn't this positive test used instead of the exemption in the first place?
Was he off showing a blatant disregard for public safety by having a meet & greet with a load of teenagers while positive/potentially positive?
If he can't satisfy those questions, then bump him onto the next flight home. If he can, then let him play.
Are any of your examples infectious?
The Aussie politicians won't b pleased but there wouldn't be a social meltdown
I think some Aussie tennis fans will have forgiven him by then, if he can show that much heart in front of a Melbourne crowd.
What makes you think "doctors" are some kind of single entity of unanimous thinkers? We've already established that vaccines have poor efficacy after 6 or so months and also don't prevent transmission. Why does valid scepticism about this make you think that someone is against all vaccines and against a doctors opinion?
Not sure why I even bother engaging. You've started off with a simplistic, high-horse argument, and will undoubtedly not escalate to anything beyond this.
Australians want him treated the very same way many of them were treated on returning to their own country.
They don't want to see him treated like he's above them.
Can you imagine the tears if he gets to play and wins
The aussies will have a meltdown!
Requiring a vaccine for someone who already had covid twice and wasn't sick either time he had it is just insane.
I think Australians want to vindicate their own passivity in face of outrageous government overreach by seeing a rich, famous tennis player punished.
Why are they even holding a tennis tournament if they're in some kind of siege emergency?
If I was holding a tennis tournament I would arrange to deliberately make it easy for recognised seeded players to enter. Yes, I wouldn't pretend they were joe soaps and try to hold them to joe soap standards and let them be barred from the country on some technicality.
'Well if joe soap can't get in, why should the title holder of the Australian Open be allowed into Australia for the Australian Open ho ho ho'
But then I wouldn't be stopping joe soaps from seeing their parents either.
How can you prove if you're Australian or not?
I will grant you that you seem boorish and uncouth and I might be inclined to believe you on that basis.
I see the Sydney Morning Herald are conducting a poll (article and poll in link) and 58% say that he should be allowed play
Many of the comments under the article also seem to indicate that more copped-on Australians seem to have realised that this a cock-up of the politician's making and what is really going on
Who the fook is Jokovic?
I'm supporting Djokovic in this mess because he merely applied to and followed a government and tennis-Australia process like 25 others did and wouldn't have gone near Australia otherwise. Having him go all the way out to Australia and then flip-flopping and deciding to try to fook him over at 4am in the morning at passport control was a pathetic move that has backfired spectacularly.
Who is the doctor?
If he stays he'll probably win the Australian Open and break the record for most grand slams. A fantastic achievement and argueably makes him the best mens player ever.
But you just know he'll be Novax Djokovic from now on. Its a shame really.
You only had to steal a loaf of bread to get into Australia years ago, funny how times have changed.
To quote a well known Doctor who has been vocal about this whole thing
" this is the first time where a vaccine hasn't delivered but those who haven't taken it are being blamed "
Completely agree. Thought I'd hate to think that the sharks could get COVID from him.
The biggest faker here is you. You adore Jokovic and seem seriously and blindly partisasn. Trying to make ou that one player is unimportant because of her ranking while wanting your boy to get his way, no matter what he's done, because he's number one, says it all.
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