Same rule as the old thread…
What did occur to me afterwards however, is that when he pleaded guilty it means he was admitting that he had done it on purpose.
His pleading guilty would be to the offence but not necessarily the intent e.g. the incident happened but he hadn't seen you (but it probably was intentional!)
My recent report to TrafficWatch above hasn't yet resulted in a call from AGS 🙄
Had a close pass last night near Adamstown on my way home from work by a plonker in a white Transit. Caught up with the driver at the next set of lights and knocked on his window. He said to me before I opened my mouth "sorry I didn't see you". Surprised at this I asked how, given my two bright rear lights, high viz bag on my back and the street lights. He just repeated his "sorry I didn't see you" line. All I could think of saying as I left was that would be of little comfort to my wife if he had killed me. As I was pedalling away he twice shouted out his passenger window that he hadn't killed me. Gobsh1te!
I stopped to make sure that the video file was saved. Then I continued up the slip road where the driver was calmly sitting in a queue of traffic.
Trafficwatched just now.
Still, I love the sound of my the freehub on my Scribes!
Jesus wept 😫
Had a good solo spin today wandering around Slade hill (near Saggart) but near home this driver on the N4 put a damper on it. Scared the crap outta me!
I used to get filled with such energetic rage at dangerous driving that I would inevitably chase down the driver and "have words", however either I've mellowed, I've grown out of that sort of behaviour or I've become inured to motorised idiocy.
There was all sorts wrong with what that driver did, but I’ve had worse happen. I’d rate quite a few of the videos on this thread as worse, too.
Yeah, he almost hits him. Then that cyclist went out in front until the cycle lane begins.
Whats the process of reporting to the guards? Is there an upload site or must I visit a station ? Had this muppet scare the bejaysus out of me this morning
I seem to remember them planning to reverse the direction of travel around the triangle, specifically to avoid left hooks on cyclists. But I can’t for the life of me find it now. Thinking about it, I’m not sure how it would have worked for turning from Griffith onto Ballymun road; I was thinking about the opposite manoeuvre when I looked at it.
What I have found is this, which leaves the left turns intact:
And yeah, if that’s what they’re doing, that’s likely to be a disaster.
Edit: I’m looking over Dutch junction design here and seeing what they were trying to do. I think there was room to design this better. But I’m wondering, would Dutch junctions work here on an ad hoc basis? They seem to rely on drivers turning right (left here) anticipating the presence of cyclists and knowing to give way.
Sorry, this may be better in the Infrastructure Planned for North Dublin thread, if mods want to take it over there.
That’s what I thought. I pass through there every day and it looks decent to me. Cyclist stop lines well ahead of general traffic. Cyclist specific lights. Nice wide cycle tracks. They’re banning left turns for general traffic, as far as I know (the bedding in period for that one might be an issue though).
The 90 degree bend for cyclists going right from Griffith Avenue onto Ballymun/Mobhi Road looks a bit awkward but I think the idea is to do it in two movements, which is slow for confident cyclists, but safer for less confident people.
I’m not arguing with you, I’m just clearly missing something and am curious what you’re spotting that I’m not.
I’ve seen a few of you worried about Griffith Avenue now. Which section exactly is worrying you?
OMG that's priceless 🤣🤣🤣
I know. I was just highlighting the fact that many people look on taxi drivers as people who drive around in empty vehicles.
Yes, but if the standard isn't acceptable, he'll have to redo it so it's in his interest to maintain a certain level. On the other hand, a truck driver who gets the delivery in on time may be rewarded regardless of how it got there.
Comparing 'professional' drivers with 'professional' carpenters is a poor analogy. A carpenter is judged on his work. If he's shoddy, he's unlikely to get further work. A truck driver is not judged on how he makes the journey to his delivery point. He's judged on making good time, not missing the ferry, not missing his delivery slot at the warehouse, not missing out on the back load etc. Unfortunately, there is a temptation to cut corners. This is especially true of tipper truck drivers who are generally paid per ton dropped so there is always a temptation to hammer along and squeeze in an extra load every day. I'm not excusing the above but merely pointing out that calling someone 'professional' has nothing to do with driving skills.
Someone else said that artic drivers should be held to higher standards than taxi drivers. It could be argued that taxi drivers carry much more precious cargos than artic drivers.
Hope they make a full recovery. It’s not the worst stretch, but the surface downhill is in bits and there’s a left turn off it. Uphill is only one lane and can be intimidating with impatient drivers. I only go down
The off road cycle track is awful, confusing, theoretically is for people cycling up the hill only, and frequently has pedestrians and dogs on and off leads in it.
Not really. They're two different things, to my mind. The inital calls were for "more stringent rules", not more punishment
Thats insane,
If anything they should be held to a higher standard of driving (an even lower limit!), especially HGV and bus drivers!
So, we're back to looking at harsher penalties for breaking those laws, rather than a more stringent set of laws for those drivers
So, there would be levels of safe driving then? Pro drivers would have to do safer driving than the rest of us?
I'm not sure which of the rules of the road we could make safer just for one subset of drivers (I'm aware of differing speed limits for different vehicles), that wouldn't also benefit all road users by having all road users obey the new safer rules, rather than just some.
I'm still not sure what the "higher standard" would constitute? What would it look like?
I suppose the question is, what's a better standard of driving. As long as they are obeying the rules, and driving with due care and attention, then what is the more or better you want from them?
The flip side of the above, is that all drivers should be obeying the rules, and driving with due care and attention.
*Edit*
To address the last part of your post, vonluck, being a skilled driver is not the same as being a safe driver. The carpenter comparison is a false equivalency
So, the "professional driver" thing is a bit of a mish mash. Some of them have ongoing traing, some of them don't. Some have separate permits/licences, some don't.
The reality is, there isn't two levels of safe driving on the road, one for professionals and one for social/recreational/commuting/whatever.
There is safe driving, and unsafe driving (I'm aware that there are levels of unsafe), and everyone behind the wheel of a vehicle should be held to the same standard.
Do professional drivers have a separate licence from their driving licence? We have some teachers here that have a bus licence for the school bus, but it's just added to their normal licence, I thought. Open to correction, though
Jaysus. The neck on that driver.
Thanks, to update I got a call from the investigating Garda in Bridewell Station (I think) a few days ago who advised there was no CCTV at that junction and that any cameras in the area were for traffic flow monitoring. Ok, whatever, I'd lost interest at that stage with the he said she said argument and no means of proving the incident. Garda did say the van was registered down the country so I guess that gives such drivers a free pass for bad driving in the big smoke when out of their comfort zone. In conclusion Garda was to ring the registered driver with a warning but whether that actually happens I have my doubts (do Gardaí pull phone numbers from associated motor tax payment logs as I'm not aware where else driver's phone numbers are stored?). I wasn't interested in pursuing it any further since no simple means of reprimanding a driver and no injury but at least there's an incident recorded against the registration.
Garda also said it's better to report such incidents at the applicable station as he was only getting the TrafficWatch report nearly two weeks after the incident. Ok fair point but what then is the purpose of TrafficWatch if not a convenient means of reporting traffic incidents since it's apparently not fit for purpose?
A few months ago I spent approximately 90mins in Store Street over two visits reporting a more serious incident involving a taxi driver on Aston Quay (gave the details in a post here at the time), I got a text message and an unexpected letter in the post with pulse numbers and what not. After all that the incident was then transferred to Pearse Street station and from there the initial Garda wanted me to call in to report the incident again but she was only available after 19:00 for a few days and then on leave for two weeks. Incident was thereafter transferred to another Garda who was very helpful and following a couple of updates advised he had the driver call into the station to give a statement and had also tracked down and spoken to his fare paying passenger. I did have a missed call or two around the time but haven't heard anything more on the incident since so not sure what if anything ever happened.
I really need to get cameras for the bike as your word is literally useless without an independent witness. I have a front and rear facing dashcam for the car but since I do more mileage per year on the bike I need to get that prioritised. Pretty difficult to get a good but yet reasonable camera for the bike though, I had the search narrowed to the Ghost Drift X a while back but never pulled the trigger.
Who said Fastway.
Professional drivers already have to meet higher medical standards in order to obtain a licence, and it needs to be renewed more frequently. I’m not in any way a legal expert, but presumably that sets some sort of legislative precedent for distinguishing professional from non-professional drivers?