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We are indeed!!
That's just blind blaming of a complete category of road users, like SOME motorists blame ALL cyclist for everything, or SOME users blame ALL taxi drivers.
We have to realise there are bad road users (careless, inconsiderate, dangerous, law breaking, etc.), regardless of the category of vehicle they are using on the road.
From this morning……
I’ll be honest, it was a scary one. Wet and windy, I just about kept myself upright.
That’s a bad one. I had similar on the Rock road a few years back and reported it to DB and they straight away apologised and said that it would be put on the drivers record. You might request the cctv footage from DB.
I feel for DB drivers normally, not an easy job but I’ve had a few run ins with them at the same time.
Goes to show how dangerous those 1 metre wide painted cycle lanes can actually be, some drivers seem to think that once they don't encroach on them it's a safe pass.
Holy crap!
100% I'd be reporting that. There's loads of info between time, date, reg and route number.
That's honestly terrifying
He probably saw nothing wrong with that, he's in his lane and I'm in mine!!!! Car behind gave you a bit more space from the looks of it.
A lot of recent clips seem to show people cycling too close to the curb. No reason to not be out further there, force them to wait due to on coming traffic and have to move out to pass rather than just passing you while trying their best to stay in their lane.
I have reported buses before for dangerous driving. Nothing ever comes of it. Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann don't care unless someone has been hit.
I usually position myself on the broken white line at the very least, but if you look closely there's a man hole cover in my line, so I also go around it, especially on wet days. I knew there was a bus behind me, but with the oncoming traffic I thought he wouldn't try and pass. Silly me!
I send Dublin Bus an email yesterday, so am waiting a reply.
I didn't know I could request their video. Are they likely to send it to me, if I ask.
I do hate that stretch of road (on both sides). Going the opposite way isn't so bad, but I still get cars trying to overtake me where there's no room.
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Thanks for that, will make a request for the footage.
Well I am basing my comment on forty years driving experience.
Just gave my opinion based on my experienc.
There are bad road users in all categories, but what I must say is that professional drivers should be held to a higher standard than everyone else. Driving is what they are trained to do and do it every working day of their lives yet many fail to obey the most basic of rules. Repeat offenders shouldn't be allowed to operate a vehicle in a working capacity in my opinion.
Anyone who drives for a living (not just to get to work) should be held to a higher standard - its literally their job!
New fuppin website, can't seem to comment under the individual posts.
@wheelo01 some people don't like this but there is no group of vehicle users that are worse than others, there are just sh1t road users and there is a number of them spread across all vehicle types. People tend to remember the bad ones but when I look at it objectively, as someone who interacts with 100s of buses per week, they are typically better than other road users, Dublin Bus in particular. Yes I have had a few bad experiences but considering the 1000s of interactions, the number of negatives are minor. Pick any brand of car and I guarantee you I have met more poor drivers for each brand than all the DB drivers in total.
@bmc58 but are you being objective. 40 years is a long time, How many have been good and how many have been bad, what vehicle type was each driving, and so on. Recently I have found myself thinking Land Rover drivers are the worst as that is who I recall the worst interactions of late, before that it was BMW poverty spec Diesels and before that it was Nissan Quashqais were the most terrifying vehicle on the road. Stereotypes are great for stories but if many of us were honest, are probably not an accurate representation of the real world.
@VonLuck NO, I am sorry but NO. They should be held to the same standard as any other motorist. It is ridiculous to think that just because you are not a "professional" driver you should get away with worse driving. No one can really think this? Its not so much that they should be held to a higher standard its that motorists in general are not held ot a high enough standard, many forget due to such low standards that driving is a privilege, not a right.
@monkeybutter fair enough it is a left only lane but that doesn't excuse the motorist, you always look in your mirrors and do a shoulder check before turning, they clearly different. I won't lie, I would have expected it to happen but that doesn't give the motorist the thumbs up to cut someone off.
I disagree. Someone who drives for a living should have more stringent rules because they are on the road for the entirety of their working day and are more prevalent on the roads. I'm not talking about your typical motorist being let away with minor infringements, I'm suggesting something along the lines of bans from professional driving in addition to your normal penalty point system.
As some know on this thread, I am now permanently welded to the middle of the lane after several close passes in one day.
This is a perfect example of why
I presume you are coming from the place that the rules that are there, are not strictly enforced as is. What I am saying is that they should be strictly enforced with all motorists, professional or otherwise, as you only have to be on the road for a few minutes a day to kill someone. I am implying that law enforcement is lackadaisical attitude at present against all motorists. I drove about 800km over the weekend. In that time I seen multiple breaches of the law from motorists, nearly all of which could kill someone. Whether they were professional or not was irrelevant. The standard across all motorists should be of a level that the need for differing rules would be pointless. Things like correct use of lanes, undertaking, not indicating (or indicating as you turn), speeding, mobile phone usage. These are all contributory factors in fatal RTCs, many of which can be monitored via cameras and appropriate software. If you think the rules should be stricter for professional drivers because they are on the road more, then they should be brought up to that level for all motorists. I certainly won't think any better of someone running me over if they are only commuting and not driving all day, I would expect them to receive as harsh a punishment as someone who typically drives 7 hours a day.
Enforcement, or lack of, is the reason why people behave as they do, they know there is little to no fear of being stopped, so therefore regulations are ignored.
I saw a car in its proper lane on the quays, drive into the bus lane, and zoom away, and the car that had been in front of him? A Garda traffic Corp jeep (before rebranding). They ignored it for whatever reason.
There is a certain logic to professional drivers being put under higher scrutiny, and in fact, they are when it comes to the drink driving laws, but I think all laws need to be enforced which would encourage more to drive carefully.
I more so mean that it should be relatively easy to lose your right to be a professional driver if you repeatedly infringe on road traffic laws. I think motorists would be more wary of their actions if they knew could have a temporary ban from professional driving as a result of their actions.
That's the worst bit of the new layout there. I was really surprised it was what they went with when I commuted for the first time after wfh for so long. Lethal, glad you're ok
There's a difference between the legal standard on the road and what good employers or fleet managers do? When I had a company car, the employer made sure that all company car drivers did advanced driver training every couple of years. It wasn't a panacea, but it did provide some additional skills and good practices. That's an example of professional drivers being held to a higher standard than others on the road.
There's also the flip side of the coin, where employers or business managers pay or incentivise drivers to cut corners. If drivers are paid per delivery (like couriers) or paid based on making x number of deliveries a day, the business is actually incentivising drivers to break traffic laws. There could be a legal liability on the employer if a crash or injury arises as a result of the driver's dangerous driving or parking.
My experience with traffic watch is that an incident file gets created and has to be followed up. Report to the station and there's no such obligation.
Got left hooked at the bottom of Francis St. the other day. Woman was on her phone. I was on a cargo bike, and leaned as left as I could. So she ended up rubbing the side of her car off the steering arm, leaving a sizeable amount of damage to her car. She decided to just keep on driving.
I can imagine the conversation she had at home and work once she saw the damage 🤣
Beeping cyclists
I had one before Christmas on St Raphaela's Road in Dublin.
If I'd been on the road bike I'd have been on the road but I was on the slow hack bike so I thought I'd try the cycle track.
A couple ahead of me were walking on the adjacent footpath and about 3 metres before I passed them the man pushed the woman (in a jocular way, they were both laughing) into the cycle track, right in front of the bike sign on the tarmac.
They were very apologetic and I just said "be careful".
Even on the coastal cycle route in Dun Laoghaire people will walk onto it without looking. I think if they don't hear a motor vehicle they assume that there's nothing coming.
Tread carefully with submitting material to this. If it is shown in mainstream media, expect to be attacked the next day with ALL the reasons why you're wrong, because you're not wearing hi-vis, and you went over that white line 10 minutes before. Expect to be doxxed too.
Yep.. Hi-viz is very important... https://twitter.com/r0thar/status/1477050648982138883?s=20
I've seen some of these before, but when you look at the full thread, it really is a jaw-dropping indictment of the abysmal quality of driving on Irish roads
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