Same rule as the old thread…
So, it's not that you want more stringent rules, but rather, harsher penalties for infringment of the rules already there.
I'd imagine it would be difficult to do, legislatively.
I'd prefer if drivers in general were held to a standard of driving
I was questioning the fact that those drivers were more "professional". Leaving out bus drivers, as far as I know, taxi drivers and delivery drivers (the other driving professions, as such) don't get any more training than anyone else with a licence. You might expect them to be better drivers (whatever that might mean), but what is the higher standard we expect from a taxi driver over any other saloon driver on the road?
Are there things that non professional drivers can do on the road that we will excuse, that we wouldn't excuse for a taxi driver?
I stand corrected re. bus drivers
Bus drivers and HGV drivers must have a Certificate of Professional Competency and do regular training courses in order to keep the certificate. In the case of Dublin Bus, these training courses are on an annual basis, afaik. While I'm not aware of the content of these courses, it is somewhat more 'professional' than a basic '"lessons, test, done for life" such as a taxi driver, van driver or average Joe car driver.
Are, say, taxi drivers given extra professional training? Or delivery van drivers? I don't think so. They just pass the test same as the rest of us.
Bus drivers have to do lessons and a test in the bus, but it's not any more "professional" than the car test, or bike test, or towing a trailer test
Make the request ASAP before footage is deleted - give bus number, place, time, and a description of yourself so they can ID you in the footage.
https://www.dublinbus.ie/Privacy/Making-a-Subject-Access-Request/
Templeogue Village is a nightmare - especially where you encountered the bus. A few years ago the cycle track used to be on the footpath from the tennis club to the bridge on both sides. Then it was moved onto the road with painted lines and since then the kind of close pass you experienced is far too regular with all vehicles. I'd an even closer pass with an articulated truck a couple of weeks ago on the opposite of the road - one of those passes where you tense up just waiting to be clipped. Thankfully it just about missed me.
I usually go through the village in the opposite direction and have no problem taking the lane if there's traffic coming in the other direction and I always take the lane as I approach the tennis club until I get to the bus stop at the pedestrian lights where the road widens considerably.
The drivers that honk at you are the sh*t ones. They're angry because you've disrupted their normally sh*t driving and momentarily forced them to act like a decent driver would.
Competent drivers won't be put out at all by what you do.
Right in front of the health centre too. Loads of elderly people and kids crossing there the whole time.
I was close passed earlier by a fella who evidently had left his Christmas shopping a little late this year. He overtook me at speed in the bus lane going past DCU inbound on the Ballymun Road. He then rejoined the main lane and proceeded to do the same average speed as me the entire way to Phibsborough, where I overtook him and didn’t see him again. Only he did it by tailgating the car in front of him and sitting on his brakes the whole way 🤷🏻♂️
Merry Christmas everyone, be safe!
I've noticed the same.
I’ve always found Dublin 15 to be one of the worst parts of Dublin for volume of traffic. I think drivers get frustrated and angrier in general as a result.
Awful situation Dr C, hopefully you are doing ok. CCTV would be great, or if somebody with a dashcam was aware they might have recorded it. More incentive now to get a camera for my bike.
Side swiped/left hooked this morning by a grey Renault Traffic van at the junction of Arran Quay and Church Street. When facing a red light would cross the three lanes of traffic and continue on the segregated cycle lane but when the light is green I continue on straight and cross at the next junction. Clipping along at about 30km/h with a green light the van comes parallel and pulls across me (no indicator either for that matter), no option but to turn with the van or I was down and under. Two rear lights and covered in the fabled high vis of no use if as I suspect the driver was on the phone or just a moron. Clipped my hand and despite a roar and slapping the side of the van he still turned left and drove on up the road without stopping.
Call logged now with traffic watch with the reg details whatever may come of it. Have cycled that section of road hundreds of times and never a problem previously specifically there, occasionally the odd Bus Eireann driver tries to intimidate once past the Church St junction when taking the bus lane.
😂 Did you read the linked extract from the SI? That's literally what it says. Overtaking on the left is legal "except where the vehicle to be overtaken has signalled an intention to turn to the left".
Legally a cyclist is perfectly entitled to overtake on the left, except in certain situations none of which were occurring here according to the only witness we have.
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/112384088/#Comment_112384088
I think if I were to follow up with anyone on that, then it would be Dublin City Council along with each and every councillor (excepting one particular "pro-cycling" prick!)
It's one of those situations where it will depend on what Garda you end up dealing with. Your video arguably shows no indicators, but it's only a momentary view.
I'd say you'd be very lucky to get a Garda sympathetic enough to do more than get the driver's side of the story, and if they dispute any aspect, then it would end there. I hate to be discouraging, but that's my experience.
The car was in a left turning lane and crossed the cycle lane and is completely at fault. The right lane is a straight ahead lane. Prior to the installation of the bollards the left lane was both a straight ahead and left turning lane. It was lethal for cyclists as drivers would encroach on the scrap of cycle lane along here and bully cyclists off the road. In the past I would take the right lane from the Hilton and continue on to the Phoenix Park. Now all that conflict is concentrated at these lights and I'm not yet sure of the best way to traverse it.
This junction needs an advance light for cyclists (they added them at a previous set of lights) and a bike box to allow people to get into a safe position. Also drivers need to stop being idiots.
I went through the Acts as best I could a while back, and a driving lane is specifically referred to as a "lane" (likewise a bus "lane"), as defined by road markings, etc. A cycle track is only ever just a "track".
All relevant overtaking, yielding, changing lane, etc. legislation refers to "lanes". A dashed white line indicating a cycle track gives you no extra legal standing - you are still overtaking on the left. Ditto a solid white mandatory line, even with wands.
Paint is not infrastructure, it will not protect you physically or legally.
(The situation above where a driver does not indicate before a cyclist has started overtaking on the left is not relevant to this discussion, that's covered by a cyclist' right to overtaking on the left given that the driver has not indicated an intention to turn. Driver totally in the wrong there.)
The oncoming car stopped, the cyclists didn't.
Yaris driver should see several points and a fine for this crap
Saw this on Twitter...
FFS!
I wonder if it's the same guy who shouted at me there before. The car park for my office is on the right just before the lights and I've been screamed at for not being in the cycle lane when turning into it.
An odd one tonight. I was coming down Mobhi Road in Glasnevin doing about 43-45 km/h, in the bus/cycle lane. A car was driving in the general traffic lane beside me. As I passed the left turn for Home Farm Road, the driver let rip with the horn. I didn’t see the car again afterwards. There wasn’t much other traffic around. I can only assume he/she was attempting to overtake and left hook me, but had misjudged my speed, and then got annoyed when he/she realised their manoeuvre was going to be physically impossible to do while also slowing down to take the corner.
I missed the boat on the previous one (I thought it was a car park on the Intel site), but I've been in contact with my local reps about the current one.
Drivers only ignore new cycle lanes?, I've seen them ignore one's that have existed for 10 years :(
I note in both applications that people using the existing cycle path and footpath will be forced to give way to traffic turning in and out of the new developments which goes against all best practices and the DMURS but this is Kildare Co Co who won't give a toss
That one is, but this one ain't: http://www.eplanning.ie/KildareCC/AppFileRefDetails/20157/0
It’s not a junction as far as I know. More like an entrance on a bend
Is that not just for a temporary car park?
http://www.eplanning.ie/KildareCC/AppFileRefDetails/211594/0
