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Good calving cameras / security cameras

Tig98

Im away getting a degree and so my input on the home farm is gone way way down. I do feel a degree of guilt about leaving the work up to my father, but at the end of the day Ive to do my own thing too.

I was thinking itd be a nice idea to get some calving cameras set up for the spring, itd take some bit of pressure off him if he didn't have to get dressed and go down to check the cows in the small hours. Does anyone have any good recommendations? Theres a good 150 meters between the house and the calving shed, so I don't think WiFi cameras would be much good. Hassle of laying a physical wire that distance though and trying to mind it isnt ideal either.

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pms7

funkey_monkey wrote: »

You should not need a NVR.

Try method 2 defined in this link - it might be a variation on the theme, but should still apply:

https://www.securitywholesalers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Hik-Connect-How-to-enable-Hik-Connect-remote-access-on-HIK-devices-NVRs-DVRs-Cameras.pdf

Have same problem since new router this year, checked settings as on link above, mine is exact same - Hikvision, not working though..

emaherx

pms7 wrote: »

Have same problem since new router this year, checked settings as on link above, mine is exact same - Hikvision, not working though..

Maybe yours was setup using port forwarding method. P2P only requires an internet connection and wouldn't be effected by changing router.

Port forwarding on the other hand needs to be setup on the router which would explain why changing router would block access.

Of course I'm assuming you can still connect while on the local network?

patsy_mccabe

I put in an IP Foscam camera here in 2013, complete with 2 Nanostations to send the internet to the shed. It worked incredibly well, given that the camera was a cheap indoor one.

This year though, I plugged out one of the nanostations in the shed to move the bracket out a little to make way for a piece of sheeting. Can't get anything to work now.

I kept all my notes from 2013 too. I have all the IP addresses and tried ping them but no reply. i think it may be corrosion on the connections.

patsy_mccabe

funkey_monkey wrote: »

When you say you can get nothing to work is that both the nanostations and the camera or just the unplugged nanostation?
Are any indicator lights illuminated on your nanostation?
Can you get some contact cleaner or does wiggling the connections gently produce any sort of connectivity? Looks like you may need to put on new connectors. Putting the plugs onto Cat5e cable is a bollox even with the right tools - definitely need them and the tester too.

I plugged the home nanostation in and out last night and the lights came on, at least all except the last one on the right. That was after hours of messing with ip addresses. Still can't talk to the home one though.

I had switch cleaner here but its empty. Must get some.

sweetie

Ordered the Reolink 4g model thanks to this thread, cheers. Setup easily and good coverage. However, my Dad is having problems intermittently logging in to view on iphone and chromepad. I'm disregarding the chromepad for the moment as I only set it up at the weekend as backup and he's 70 so could have been doing something wrong but there was definitely something weird on saturday with the iphone app and I had to reinstall it to get working. Any time I try on my oneplus 5 android I have no issue logging in so I'm kind of stumped. Noticed an update today on android, maybe might address the issue but would appreciate anyone who had similar experience. many thanks.

pms7

emaherx wrote: »

Maybe yours was setup using port forwarding method. P2P only requires an internet connection and wouldn't be effected by changing router.

Port forwarding on the other hand needs to be setup on the router which would explain why changing router would block access.

Of course I'm assuming you can still connect while on the local network?

No, wasn't port forwarded.
Yes ok on LAN
DDNS not set up in app, does this matter?
Thanks

AntrimGlens

emaherx wrote: »

The P2P in this case is a cloud protocol for remote viewing and nothing to do with your point to point wireless bridge.

The Hikvision instructions are provided in a link above by funkey_monkey. Should be straight forward with no need for static IPs, port forwarding or any dynamic DNS service.

Got sorted last night lads, fairly straighforward IP issue, so all good again. thanks for your help.

emaherx

pms7 wrote: »

No, wasn't port forwarded.
Yes ok on LAN
DDNS not set up in app, does this matter?
Thanks

No DDNS not needed unless you want to use the port forwarding method and don't have a static IP.

The system just needs an internet connection for P2P to work.

The only thing I can think of is an issue with your network settings possibly the DNS or default gateway settings (since it works locally but not remotely). Do you know if it is setup with DHCP? Or static settings?

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Was planning on getting a homeplug with POE and passthrough. Wire directly into router. Other end in attic with direct feed from the camera (that camera is 12 VDC, PoE (802.3at)). Distance is well within the 100m limit of 802.3at.
Yet to source a suitable homeplug so this might change

I've seen POE home plugs alright, but have not seen any with mains pass through. I'd be reluctant enough to use home plugs at all as they are a bit hit and miss for reliability, depending on the wiring in your house. But I assume running the network cable to the attic is a difficult task?

If you go that route watch that the power output of the POE Home plug is sufficient for your PTZ camera. Personally If I had to use a home Plug I'd use normal TP link's and a separate POE injector Possibly even put the injector in the shed if there is a near by socket.

You say that camera is 12 VDC, PoE (802.3at)??
PoE (802.3at) is 44V-57V so I'd assume the camera can be directly powered by 12V or using PoE (802.3at)?

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Only other option is to put a WiFi receiver into the attic, but I had thought that a wired option would be a more stable setup.

I've often found WiFi to be much more stable than home plugs. The wiring in your house was not installed with the intention of carrying data so is not the same as having a propper wired ethernet connection.

They never work anywhere near the advertised speed and dropouts are not uncommon but they can work fairly well in some houses and next to useless in others. If the 2 sockets are on the same ring main then that would help.

SuperTortoise

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone with all the advice on the thread, setup my cameras for remote viewing this evening with a few tips from ye.

pms7

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I can see now why most people get an installer to do this.
I was planning on running the cabling out of the house via a duct across yard into the shed - which would have been very handy. However, just realised that I can't do this as the ducting already contains the power for the shed - armoured cabling.

For anyone wondering why - there are two main risks with running data cabling and power cabling alongside with insufficient separation - induced voltages and data corruption. Data corruption is minor - lost packets of data requiring re-transmission. Induced voltages is the one I'd be worried about as it can fry the end device.
I was hoping to using some shielded network cabling but I've not got any confirmation - plus as its against code...

So, looks like I'll be installing a wireless bridge. To save me having to research up on them, what ones are folk here using and I'll get one of them. I'd presume it would be a Ubiquiti item?

https://www.novatel.ie/long-range-wifi
I have used these

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Finally got our calving camera setup. Wasn't high up my list of priorities as due to covid someone was always about the place.
Wired the cable back into the house and use a powerline adapter from attic down to the router. 15Mb/s connection at the endpoint in the shed - so more than sufficient for current needs.
Added a microphone as well as well to get the sound. Bit of a little faffy thing, but it was advertised as a professional grade external mic, so I went for it. Seems to be a forward of something Chinese judging by the documentation, but sound quality is fine so far.
All cabling put into conduit which was more hassle, but should keep the furry livestock away from the cables. Left good sized tails on the cabling incase we want to extend the number of cameras and can then switch to a network switch implementation.

Took a while to get mobile setup working - had to update the firmware and then it worked fine. Lots of online help, which was lacking from Hikvision themselves. I just need to setup an automatic scan of the shed now and it should be job done.
Next job is the outfarm. Hopefully I'll get it done more quickly, but I doubt it!

The conduit is a great job as long as all ends are capped off. I just spent the day rewiring a milking parlor where rodents made themselves at home inside the cable trunking, they had striped insulation off so much of the cabling that I can't understand how it didn't give issue weeks or even months ago. All because 60mm square trunking was used with no end caps.

Pussyhands

Well lads, just joining this thread late.

Relative of mine has this set up installed. Camera in shed - wireless bridge on shed point to house (looks like one anyways) - wireless bridge on house pointing to shed.

So I think I'm right in saying that there's a cable going from the bridge on the house back to the wifi router.

My question is, does the camera auto connect to the bridge on the shed? Or would it be hardwired back to a switch? i.e Switch has power, camera plugs into switch and bridge on the shed plugs into switch also.

emaherx

Pussyhands wrote: »

Well lads, just joining this thread late.

Relative of mine has this set up installed. Camera in shed - wireless bridge on shed point to house (looks like one anyways) - wireless bridge on house pointing to shed.

So I think I'm right in saying that there's a cable going from the bridge on the house back to the wifi router.

My question is, does the camera auto connect to the bridge on the shed? Or would it be hardwired back to a switch? i.e Switch has power, camera plugs into switch and bridge on the shed plugs into switch also.

Do you mean by WiFi?
There will be no auto connecting to WiFi, you need SSID and password configured if your camera can connect by WiFi at all.

Most wireless bridges are 5GHz and most WiFi cameras are 2.4GHz so that could be an issue also. But a few cameras and bridges do support the other bands so not impossible either.

In most IP camera setups, the cameras will be hardwired to a switch or if WiFi setup will use a 2.4Ghz access point along with the 5Ghz bridge. If only one or 2 cameras it may be possible to hardwire directly to the bridge depending how many ports it has available.

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Everytime I do something in the shed I put it in conduit, back when it was first put up they didn't think of using it and now with UV degradation and our furry friends, its not a good job. For all the price of conduit, its a no-brainer to me.

It's much neater too, just make sure to close off any open ends or it actually can make the situation worse. I doubt you have the issue, but you'd be surprised how many are left with a bit open somewhere.

Hard Knocks

Looking some assistance/advice

We’ve 2 reolink cameras in the shed, which are powered by POE, the WiFi is supplied by TP link, sadly you can only view while on wifi network

Everything worked perfectly last winter, but now we cannot access cameras while in the house (using wifi), but no issue when in the shed

Wifi test is giving good results, I’ve repaired the (2) receivers (1in house) with the transmitter

Easten

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118101612#Comment_118101612

Can you access the Home network from the shed. ie can you connect to the internet from the wifi in the shed? as it sounds like the tp-link is not connected to your house network

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118134311#Comment_118134311

Yes wifi works in the shed, had issues with 2nd TP router in house today & had to reset the system, hopefully all should work now

Hard Knocks

Has anyone using wifi adapters noticed any changes since a smart meter was installed?

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118154470#Comment_118154470

No and my router is on the opposite side of the wall from the meter. Really shouldn't have any more effect than a mobile as the smart meter just has a built in 3G modem. My house / yard has a few wireless networks some in the same 2.4Ghz band as WiFi without issues.

But if you feel something is interfering you can change the WiFi band by a few Hz from your router and/ or access points.

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118154657#Comment_118154657

Have 2 receivers (1 for office 1 for shed), both will work in the house but neither are working in the shed (20 yards), all on same circuit

Everything working well previously

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118154766#Comment_118154766

Sorry I misunderstood your comment, it's the power line/WiFi adapters you are using. To be honest they are a black art at the best of times. 20 yards to an outside shed is well beyond their intended use. Any change in your wiring could effect them alright, not necessarily the smart meter, a new appliance with a motor could be the culprit either, either way your reception was on a cliff edge to start with so it wouldn't take much to push It off. A wireless bridge would be a far better option or even better is to run a cable.

Deteriorating components in the WiFi plugs such as capacitors could also be the culprit and only effect it's longest range while still working over shorter distances.

Hard Knocks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118154862#Comment_118154862

Worked brilliant last winter and was hoping same this one too, putting in ducts in the spring and will run cable then

Sods law

emaherx

I got 2 sets of these (4 in total) to connect different buildings to the house:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Z4R827X/ref%3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They work as a pair out of the box, but be warned every one of them is pre set with the same password, so worth logging into them and changing.

[Deleted User]

Can confirm Reolink Go PT alarm will scare what's left of the piss out of a cat marking hay bales - yeah I know re pregnant ewes (they won't be getting this hay), no feckin door on shed!

SuperTortoise

Upgrading two fixed cameras in shed to 1 fixed and 1 PTZ.

I've settled on this camera for the PTZ: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VB3JLMJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3U9Q5O0WCDPGX&psc=1

Any issues before i order?

Kachukas

Hello

Some help please.

I have been using a Reolink Go 4g camera offsite in stables which were a couple of kms away for when mares are foaling and found it great.

This year however we are renting a stable which is much closer to the house (about 250m) I had planned on using the same Reolink camera but when I set it up today to test it the 4g coverage is very poor and I was unable to connect the camera at all. I tried positioning the camera around each wall but it was the same. My mobile phone signal is brutal here too barely getting a couple of bars.

What are my options?

Thanks

Kachukas

Here's what I've been thinking about getting

My house has Fibre to the Home (FTTH) with speeds of over 150mbs download.

The stables where I want to errect the camera is approx 250m (at the very most) away. There is a direct line of sight to the stables with no interference.

I was thinking of getting these:

KuWFi 2-Pack 300Mbps Wireless outdoor CPE Kit,Indoor&Outdoor Point-to-Point Supports 1KM transmission distance solution for PTP, PTMP application

from Amazon for €64

My plan is to fix one on the roof of my house and the other on the roof of the stable.

I was then going to use one of these

REOLINK 5MP(2560x1920@30FPS) PoE Camera Outdoor/Indoor IP Security Video Surveillance, IP66 Waterproof, IR Night Vision, Motion Detection, Work with Smart Home, Up to 128GB Micro SD Card, RLC-410-5MP

again from amazon for €38

Do I just connect a long ethernet cable from my Eir modem to the first bridge on my house roof and then another ethernet cable from the 2nd bridge (stable) to the camera??

Will this work or do I need anything else?

Thanks

Sugarbowl

I had trouble getting reception with my reolink as well. Think the corrugated sheets were affecting the signal. Try putting the camera in the stable where you want, then go home or to a place where you phone has better reception to try it then. I had poor connection in the shed but when I came away home with my phone it works great.