This question goes out those who took the 2 jabs? Will you you take it to get back to normality? Or are you sick of the government moving the goalposts constantly?
Every doctor will say get booster.
The original vaccine was a no brainer but this booster to fight off Omicron for 35-39 age bracket I'm really unsure.
Possibly. But that would tell me something as well tbh. It is of course entirely up to you sit tight if you want and see how you feel in the new year, weight up the possible pros and cons.
It's your last sentence that is critical though: "The fact it is currently raging through my sister's house (her husband and all four kids have it - the one hit hardest by it has been her husband who has refused to get vaccinated at all) finally made up my mind."
Her husband has taken no vaccines to date. That is very different situation from many posters here who are already double jabbed and their decision to take further vaccination or not.
Hospitalised cases are falling - Christmas discharges a factor? What proportion of people in hospital beds primarily due to Covid are either unvaccinated or over 80? That would be useful information for the public, but the HSE PR seems to be shy on spreading the facts.
It was one of the reasons for my decision definitely to get it now and not wait.
I agree that information would be really helpful.
But there is plenty of information around protection waning hence why the booster is being recommended. I would have got it eventually without the situation with my sister in new year, I just didn't fancy being down for a day or two possibly over Christmas but luckily with Pfizer I seem to be fine.
Got it just there
Only took a few seconds, little pinch
I know it doesn't fit with the RTE and mainstream media narrative. Not hard to find, but many, many peer reviewed research papers in reputable journals and various governments health service publications (Obviously not ours) over the last year and more that answer your question. Yes, much more effective.
Got the booster yesterday. I was a little hesitant as the second jab floored me with fatigue for around 3 weeks. A little tired this morning but feel great now.
I got Moderna today after two Pfizers. So far only sore arm and hopefully it will be the worst of it because wouldn't want to be suffering all Christmas. First jab gave me only a sore arm for a few hours, the second nerve pain all the way from fingers to shoulder blade, a swollen armpit, flu-like aches in my face and a slight fever but it all went away in a few hours (the same thing without fever happened with the flu shot as well but that one lasted for several days). So... Sort of scared when it will "hit me like a ton of bricks" but hoping nothing happens.
Came on here to post pretty much this.
32, double jabbed and had very little hesitancy for the first two vaccines but I do have significant hesitancy with regards to the booster. I don’t feel the whole “you’ll need another vaccine six months after your first” narrative was really communicated sufficiently to the population during the summer when the first two jabs were being administered. Maybe I was living under a rock, but I feel a bit blindsided by all this.
Most people my age that I know have been rushing around dying to get boosted the past week or so and for reasons I can’t quite put my finger on, it just makes me uneasy. Maybe it’s because I had a worrying side effect after my first shot, maybe I’m overly confident in my ability to fight covid, maybe I’m more of a conspiracy theorist than I’d like to admit, but I definitely have a strong gut feeling to hold off on the booster for as long as practically possible.
It's not actually a lot of money in the greater scheme of things, not as modern corporations go
Got my booster today, just like my 2nd jab after 12 hours I have an elevated heart rate, fever, hot then cold and slight headache. Last time it passed within 24 hours let's see if this is the same.
I'm 30. How do I know my heart rate is elevated, my watch tracks in and can see it slowing rising from resting to active. Nothing to worry about so hopefully it passes like last time.
Protection Waning specifically refers to Antibodies. Not the immune response which doesn't wane. Memory b cells and T cells.
I seen someone explain it like this and makes it easy for people to understand.
Basically Antibodies are the doormen into a nightclub. They mostly stop anyone dodgy from getting in.
When the Antibodies wane the doormen have fecked off or there's less than usual so some scruffs will get in the nightclub.
But inside the club there is still security guards (mem b and T cells) to throw out anyone causing trouble.
So without booster (and also with!) you can catch the Virus but your original vaccines have already trained and set the B and T cells up for a response.
The difference is the virus will then give you immunity and no amount of boosters can do that for you.
You have to isolate as a Close contact with Vaccines / Booster, you don't have to isolate after recovering for 9 months. Surely that says it all
Where did you see that? While the science seems to strongly suggest a bout of covid plus a vaccine can give "super immunity" above and beyond vaccine and booster I've not seen anything official that says recovered covid people don't have to isolate as a close contact?
Only got the first jab a few days ago but yeah whenever it's time for an ould booster I'll get it.
It's all over the Hse website that you do not need to isolate as a close contact if you've had a positive pcr within the last 9 months.
I got my booster on Wednesday, no side effects only weird dreams !!
I had no side effects with either of the first 2 jabs..lucjy me.
Each booster they foist upon the world's population has the potential to bring in an extra 120bn or so.
I've had a look and can't find that. Could you link it?
link?
Antibodies from an infection of a coronavirus wane the same as those that were caused by a vaccine.
I'll get the booster but if a fourth is needed/recommended I won't be taking it. In my mind if 4 shots of a vaccine are needed in just a year and possibly more then that vaccine isn't very good and the scientists need to go back to the drawing board.
Glad to see that those 16-39 year olds who had the Janssen one-shot in the summer can get their boosters at a pharmacy from Wednesday, since according to immunologists this cohort has "practically no immunity" from Omicron. Friend's daughter is first in line - personal choice obviously.
Got this yesterday from my GP who was running a walk-in clinic. They were giving out Pfizer which I wasn't expecting. Not that I've any idea what the difference is between any of them so it didn't really matter to me. Feeling grand today which is a plus because the second dose knocked me for six for a couple of days.
this cohort has "practically no immunity" from Omicron
Immunologists will need a good talking to after all this is over, a whole lot worse than some tabloid newspapers, some of them.
It says they updated the advice last night. Good for them. I'm going by the old one which was the advise I got. My vaccinated immune system has dealt with Covid perfectly, as expected. So I won't be isolating or getting tested again.
Don't start with more information needing updated advice, they don't listen to the correct information, only whatever they want. Where is the peer reviewed study they've based their change on, the change they didn't even inform the public on.
All so they can protect themselves from facing up to the Health care system they failed
Good luck. I got vaxxed, I got covid, I'm done.
The post was regarding Mem B and T cells not waning and meaning the Vaccines still work, as well you know.
There's many studies showing ABs stay elevated months after infection. Not to mention the vaxxed and infected like myself. I'd link it all to you, but we both know your agenda.
Enjoy your life of fear. I'm free from it all. ❤️
+1. Now this is completely anecdotal and a monumentally tiny sample size, but in the last ten days I've seen covid go through a few people in two households after it was introduced after one family member came back from London for Christmas. So likely omricon, it spread like mad and came on quickly in those who became symptomatic. All mild thankfully and only lasted a few days. There is a mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated(the only ones I personally know) in this group. The vaccinated had the mildest illnesses or none at all and their symptoms lasted a shorter time. The unvaccinated complained more of fatigue. But overall as I say mild. The worst was "headcold with added fatigue".
This was your statement:
Which is false, the virus and the boosters can both give you immunity via antibodies, B and T cells, there is very little difference between them. The waning by infection is the same as the waning from the vaccines (antibody count dropping). It's one of the reasons we'll start seeing higher rates of reinfections occur (and one of the reasons that pursuing herd immunity by infection was a hugely flawed concept).
Mornings after my booster my arm is still a little sore but rest of body seems fine
Its actually more, provided they get everyone to take it
