UK reports more than 50,000 new coronavirus cases for a second successive day
Luckily for us who live in GB life goes on as normal, seems like mental hysteria at home.
Hospitalization and deaths are steadily decreasing
Amazing eh ?
Boris claiming there was "no party" at Crimbo, who else will likely resign?
Ffs I was wrong about life going on like normal.
Anybody know if a recovery pass will do as a Covid cert this time? Unclear from Bozo's announcement
Parliament has voted that vaccination will be mandatory for frontline NHS staff from July 2022.
No doubt a few court challenges ahead.
Thats what happens when you double your daily testing capacity in December vs January
Whitty getting some flak from the right honourable member for Indiana east.
Did the Brits know how thick-as-mince their MPs were before Twitter?
(tweet deleted since but has been widely reported, even in the Torygraph)
The Tories refusing requests from Wales, Scotland and NI for support packages for businesses affected by Omicron
3 days record numbers in UK
It has the advantage of objectivity. You died + you tested positive for Covid therefore "Covid death". It doesn't involve the opinion of a doctor deciding that you died because of Covid rather than merely with Covid. Comparisons can be made easily with other countries too as they count deaths in a similar way.
The problem is that the nature of the disease is changing. With vaccinations and the virus itself mutating into less deadly forms, it is far more likely that a covid death will be a death with Covid rather than of Covid. If it was a very common but completely harmeless virus, then you would still get large numbers of "Covid deaths" simply because people die and a certain proportion will have the virus when it happens. This would clearly be a distortion of the truth if we treated it the same way as before.
Quick comparison of overall deaths in the UK vs the EU per head of population. The UK is about 10% higher at present but the gap is closing. This is despite the fact that there are very few restrictions in the UK compared to the EU generally.
The graph I'd like to see is cumulative deaths per million since around late May 2021 for various broadly vaccinated European countries (i.e. zeroed at that point in time).
This eliminates poor performance prior to initial vaccination rollout to the vulnerable and should show to some extent the effect of various policy approaches.
The graph I posted includes all periods leading up to the present. So you can see performance at all points in time including May 2021.
If the rules are that only deaths up to May 2021 count, then the EU is clearly ahead in Covid policy. However, if you take a longer term view and include vaccine performance, then this advantage is not so clear and may disappear altogether in the future.
They're zeroed from April 2020. As I wrote, I'd like to see them zeroed from May/June 2021, so that we can see relative performance after vaccination rollout to vulnerable.
Sorry I misread your post. I would still have a bit of an issue zeroing the graph at various points in time when it is the cumulative deaths over the entire pandemic that counts. The graph I posted isn't "zeroed" at any particular time; it simply goes back to a point where there were next to no Covid deaths to record.
An interesting piece of data from the Financial Times today. A stat from London hopsitals indicates that 111/169 new Covid +ve patients who were admitted were not being treated primarily for Covid
A good insight into Omicron given London has an extremely low vaccination rate versus the rest of the UK.
Other factors at play here, not just restrictions. Large parts of central and eastern Europe have had lower vaccine take up (countries such as Romania, Bulgaria and Poland).....the likes of Germany and France are not closing on the UK in terms of deaths.
Overall, I think the UK handled the vaccine situation better than the EU generally. Crucially, they completed the bulk of their initial vaccinations as the summer was beginning. This allowed a much greater opening of society during the warmer weather when the virus could spread immunity without overwhelming the NHS. In the EU, we got to roughly the same stage as summer was ending. This meant that we could not our exit wave without serious consequences and therefore restrictions have had to remain in place for another winter.
Well my flatmate tested positive I guess that's me travelling home for Christmas scuppered.
Sorry to hear pal. Get a test though, you might not have caught it, fingers crossed.
I don't have any symptoms, going for a pcr test tomorrow but apparently I still have to isolate for 10 days because she is positive.
If even you are negative?
Apparently yes, after the pcr I have to take lateral flow tests to make sure I haven't contracted it subsequently because she will still be virulent.
Ah Jesus, well I hope it all works out for you in the end. Sorry it’s happened.
With regards to the EU figures Vs the Brits.
Britain has a 5 fold lead in tests per million than say Germany or Netherlands who adopted a don't look, don't see approach and double most others up to 12 times the testing rate in some Eastern European countries.
If they didn't push testing in Britain, they would have lovely figures as well.
You need to be careful comparing testing figures. Most countries only report PCR test results for obvious reasons, the UK report (or more accurately posters on here) only report the combined antigen & PCR figure.
PCR testing in the last week has the Brits running at about 9 to 1 Vs Germany. Treble our selves, 6 times the Dutch rate.
Under half of Switzerland.
Testing was late to the event in most of continental Europe and in much of it still is.
In places like Germany it can only be a deliberate policy position. If the will was there, they could. It's not though.
Don't look, don't see.
Hows Denmark compare? Leave the countries out that do better obliviously.
With German cases falling, it makes sense that testing would reduce also. That's why positivity rate is taken into account.
It just annoys me when a certain user starts comparing UK positivity (antigen & PCR) rate to another countries rate (PCR only) and thinking it's an equal comparison. If you remember there was a time the UK counted the nasal and mouth swabs as 2 different tests and each antigen test posted out was counted also (negative posted out and positive only if it was reported)
