Max…. Can I apologise sincerely if I upset you…. I’m sorry.
Its just that I get seriously pïssed with people lobbing out stuff just for the sake of it.
Now hopefully we can continue, but I admit to being over the top there.
Could be interpreted as directed at you personally but it wasn’t..
Is there an actual statutory or legal requirement for 9 year olds and up to wear face masks in school?
Apparently not, but it seems the Government and media are trying to blur that point with claims that it's a Departmental "requirement"
It's a tactic they've used (successfully) numerous times in the last 18 months.
It’s a matter of common sense K, not a tactic.
Tactic for what ?
Irish people dont need to be coerced into following bad policy , we march up and meekly volunteer to take it in the name of appearing respectable , the last two years has proven that
It’s a tactic to deflect blame from themselves. Just like not closing nightclubs officially but doing so in name by making it as good as unviable.
To confuse/coerce people into accepting measures that they know they can't legally enforce
On what basis could they prevent children attending school?
I wouldn't expect that they could make it mandatory, unless they offered an alternative class setting. The State must provide primary education to everyone, it's a constitutional obligation.
So common sense doesn’t come into it K.
okey dokey…. so….. always look on the bad side.
What qualifications have you got to make that statement? ‘Bad Policy’
What have the last two years proven?
How long do we give it for the mask mandate to be extended down to junior infants?
I can see two ways of this happening
It sounds like a conspiracy but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised at some stage in this if toddlers, crèche aged kids are put in masks. We seem to have a fetish in this country for them. Not ventilation though.
Good call dude, so instead of putting on a cheap cloth mask which is instant and replaceable you will rip down the building and install expensive ventilation.
Well done……..well done………..
And there is the problem right there. Cheapness.
Not our fault the department blew the budget on sanitizer (some that wasn’t even suitable!) Anyway, not all ventilation requires ripping walls down.
Why did he agree to it if that's the case
Complete agree, however you’ve made the fatal mistake of believing Micheal Martin makes the rules.
Tony makes the rules, government ‘rubber stamps’.
all primary going kids will be expected to mask up within three months I reckon , sure media are already asking " why stop at nine year olds "
we have a fetish for being seen to be on the side of respectability , wearing masks are it in 2021
Any tips for kids with glasses having the glasses steam up? Maybe a different type of mask I can order?
What does that mean?
Dunnes anti fog wipes are very good . Available in most big clothes stores at the checkouts
Also make sure the glasses sit over the mask and mask is tight on the nose
Take the mask off.
You are on Boards.ie not in a NPHET meeting. Nobody here needs to be qualified to express an opinion.
nothing works, trust me. just pull it down under the nose, thats how i have been wearing it the past 5 or 6 months.
Take it off and throw it in the bin and ask your teacher what are they going to do about it 😀
Thanks, he is 11 and I put daily contacts in for him for sports, i told him I would do that in the morning till I try and get the better wipes tomorrow, he said he found it difficult today, small problems but trying to improve it, if he needs the contacts going forward it's not an issue, it's probably time for him to start putting them in himself anyway, just the habit we were in.
Surely there are implications within the classroom setting. With so many pupils in a class, a teacher needs to gauge body language to assess things such as
-whether a child is engaged / their emotional state /
Doesn’t a mask hinder reading body language -the facial area being the most expressive. Fine for adults, perhaps but for children?
There are so many ramifications to a policy of mask wearing at a young age… there are implications wider than viral protection. Looking at the big picture it seems over the top.
You shouldn't, or at least there were a lot of examples where it would be prudent to listen to those qualified persons and then verify, either by reading actual respected scientific sources or by applying basic logic. That is still in play today. Masks are mandatory on the bus, because that's seen as an increased risk environment, but after you hop off the bus and go into to a pub, club or cafe, you don't need the mask anymore because the threat has magically vanished. Until midnight of course when it magically comes back again. You require a mask in Tesco, but don't require one watching a match in the Aviva, yet there are pretty much zeor examples of clusters in retail, but quite the number in sporting fixtures. Up until recently the "qualified" were hellbent on telling us that cases among children were community based and not happening in schools, which in of itself is the daftest thing since daft was invented. In every single pandemic in modern history schools were a source of spread. In 1918 when the flu pandemic hit, those jurisdictions in the US that closed schools had notably lower transmission rates than those who didn't. But of course our "qualified" have now done an about face and have decided yep indeed this is true. But of course in their own contradictory way have made a total pigs ear of it.
I just can't....where do you even go with that.
Mandatory but not really? You do realize the Times don’t actually write the law.
Of course we’re complying but I do get a laugh from these ‘fakey’ rules, it would be great to see a genuine legal challenge to this, constitutional right vs a recommended undermined by having no actual legislation to enforce it - just to see how it would pan out.
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