Neither implies it affects their decision making.
Just on this - NPHET run surveys tracking how worried people are, while the government had employed an agency to follow online commentary around Covid.
Forget about protecting grannies and kids for a minute. Public policy is neither made nor influenced by punters being overly dramatic on the internet. Nobody on NPHET is checking out forums or comments sections.
The sole thing driving decisions is case numbers and, more importantly, their impact on hospital admissions and ICU admissions. If the latter gets too high, they have to take the least disruptive steps possible to slow (not halt) transmission.
Actually it would be difficult . Only speaking for my own family and friends and my own area . A lot of children are minded after school by grandparents , cutting those links would make it difficult for many parents to work
Out of my 5 siblings 4 of us pick kids up from school , out of my 6 good friends 5 of us mind grandchildren . I realise that is only a snap shot of my life but it’s replicated all over the country
I get ours through work boxes of 100 so it works out super cheap. You could try something like this on Amazon as it works out a lot better than getting them here in Ireland i'd say.
N95s are very difficult and uncomfortable to breathe through when worn properly, especially if worn for any significant amount of time.
I can't understand why anyone would want a child to wear one of those. We've lost the plot completely. "Oh, it's not right to make it mandatory for Karen from Facebook to get vaccinated, but in order to protect Karen, let's weld an N95 onto every child in this cuntry (typo intended) from 3rd class up."
Where is the best place to buy N95s online ?
Try the N95's. They've come right down in price if you buy in bulk and do a super job. I noticed a lot more people wearing them in a recent business trip to Spain compared to the cloth ones here.
the " protect granny " narrative is designed to create division
the truth of the matter is it would not be difficult to keep primary school kids seperated from their grandparents if that would make an immense difference ?
you can put youre bottom dollar on it becoming mandatory for all primary school kids , media already asking " why they stopped at nine year olds "
Pat kenny incredulous this morning
I agree with this. It is simply unacceptable to shift responsibility for 'protecting your grandparents' onto children. My parents are the same - decided they didn't want to miss out on their grandchildren, and having been vaccinated (now boostered too) felt the risk should now be minimal.
its clear that a very significant percentage of the population have a strong fetish for enforcing rules upon others , the rest then meekly go along with it and we end up where we are
infuriatingly passive people we really are , people will follow anything deemed the respectable thing to do no matter how idiotic it is
It won't end as long as the current attitudes prevail in NPHET and Government. Masks were introduced in secondary schools in August 2020 as an "interim" measure - 16 months later and they are still fully there. Masks for the 3rd-6th class are in place "temporarily" until February 2022. I would bet it's much more likely that they will be expanded to the rest of primary schools by then as a "just in case" measure.
Who in older generation ? I didnt hear the older generation call for masks on children .? That was a Government decision .?
Ive had enough of the "what about the grandparents" comments. Stop making it everyone else's responsibility. Assess the risk yourself in your own life.
Older people are vaccinated and now most likely have had their booster too.
so people opposed to masking kids are " hysterical " ?
Never mind that the "grannies" are almost all fully vaccinated and many have taken boosters too.
Assuming Grandparents have been vaccinated, at some stage you have to accept some level of risk.
It is insanity.
FTB2021 asks a great question.
When does it end? How does it even end if children have to now wear masks in freezing schools to protect people with vaccines and boosters.
The older generation are using children as shields for their own fear induced madness.
Exactly this, logic has walked out the door completely between NPHET and the Government's clowning around, how do you tell mammy and daddy their child needs a mask in a 'safe' and 'controlled' environment like the classroom (Government's own description) after the parents were at their work Christmas party over the weekend in the pub?????
A month ago it was the students and 20 year olds who were the "granny killers" because they dared go to a nightclub. This week it's the under 12s who are cast in the role of the "granny killers".
I think the fear of passing the virus onto grandparents is well gone. Any older person I know will not sacrifice seeing their grandchildren - they know there is a risk they could get covid from them but the benefit of seeing the kids far outweighs this threat.
My own mum had the view she has had a great life and does not want to miss out on her grandkids - in her view if she gets covid so be it. I wasnt happy with her view on this at the start but than I came to respect her view. Grandparents avoiding their grandkids and kids petrified they will kill their grandparents is no way to live our lives - remember this could go on for years. Mu mum ( early 80's) also believes people in their 40s, 50s and 60s should be given vaccine priority over the very elderly - I know several wont agree with her views on this though.
Unfortunately I think the fear of infecting grandparents is now a convenient excuse used by many.
So many people have completely lost all grasp of reality due to this dose. It’s getting pathetic now.
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Listening to principals walking the tightrope of requiring facemasks, immediately, for 3rd class upwards… can’t help wonder why the Government gave itself five days to make a decision on them, and gave schools 16 hours’ notice to implement it
We're now at the stage of appeasing the hysterical minority who infest social media channels complaining that not everyone is as afraid as they are.
Nearly two years into the pandemic and people still using the what if a child infects their triply vaccinated grandparent..
Where does this end? When the virus apparently decides to disappear? Or when granny is on her fifth booster? Some of the logic indicates certain people will never accept a child being around a grandparent any more due to safety..
The Buckets for starters, there are 4 grandparents there.
Well in my area a good majority of kids are actually minded by grandparents after school . I mind mine but have three vaccines at this stage and life must go on
How many primary school kids live in the same house as their grandparents?
I am more thinking from the perspective of children possibly picking up the virus and bringing it home to parents or Grandparents. In a situation where virtually a quarter of a class are Covid positive it is obviously spreading within the classroom.....I feel sorry for the Teacher facing in there this morning and trying to work in that environment.
Was watching Minister Donnelly's pathetic self contradictory performance on TV last night. It's pretty clear that the Govt are stumbling from one crisis to another and are experts at sending out mixed messages to the General Public and Parents of school going children at this stage.
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