When do people think life will go back 100% to how it was pre pandemic. No masks, everything normal, nobody thinking of covid like it was with the flu.. nightclubs full etc
or dead - said with glee....
There is no going back. I can remember certain posters saying as much at the start of the pandemic and being ridiculed by a clique of posters on here. What we should have been doing over the last nearly 2 years is building up our hospital and ICU capacity to deal with the variating flow of covid patients we will see over the next few years, peaking in January/Feb and falling then in the summer months. We've put all our eggs in the vaccine basket and undoubtedly vaccines help they won't end this pandemic.
We've got a centre right government ideologically opposed to expanding state owned hospital capacity, basically. So it was never going to happen. The end 2022 public ICU bed target is now lower than the end 2021 one was originally.
Where are you guys getting getting your Covid death stats from? Last week there were 18 Covid deaths, the week before was 22. (Note: the figures include those who died within this time period and whose death has been reported to CIDR up to 24/11/2021. It does not include deaths of COVID-19 cases reported to CIDR in the last week but with an earlier date of death. It also does not reflect the final number of deaths occurring for this period as the outcome may not yet have occurred, or is yet to be reported to CIDR.)
You can both take a look back on stats to see when there were 80 covid deaths, and maybe take another run at your comparative calculations.
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/weeklyreportoncovid-19deathsreportedinireland/
19th!!
The funny thing is, this is an EU thing.
England is fully back to normal and has been since July 19th 2021. You will spot young idiots wearing masks here and there, but aside from that the clubs are full, you can sit where you like in a crowded pub, etc etc. The worst they get are occasional murmurs about the possibility of domestic vax passes and an impending lockdown, but England's daily cases seem to have remained around the 30 to 50K mark for months and nobody seems to panic about it, vax passes seem unlikely bar for international travel.
The other day I went on the Daily Mail app and counted the stories down as I scrolled- it was 32 articles before I hit one about Covid.
There are 12 Covid stories on journal.ie since midnight last night, in comparison.
Whatever you may think of him Boris Johnson is a- a libertarian and b- enjoys a pint in a pub. And his people are better off for it. There is absolutely no doubt Kreepy Keir or Red Jez would have them on restrictions similar to ours if they were in government.
A story about a new Covid mutation is the main story today on the Daily Mail site and the 1000 deaths a week was covered prominently in the past few days with ministers being asked if there was a risk of restrictions being introduced.
But carry on from Peppa Pig land (in case you don’t get that, look up bumbling Boris’s cringing speech to industry leaders earlier this week)
I don't know because they say that it will never be the same as pre covid-19 again.
Current moving 7 day average is 6 but it was 11 only a week ago.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/
Would you rather be in England, where life is normal, or in Ireland, where there is 24/7 hysteria every day?
The UK isn't back to normal, but England is (or 95% back to normal) London is a bit different because of masks on public transport, but the mask thing isn't enforced there. Or at least it wasn't the times I was there (3 times in the past couple of months).
What hysteria?
Do you really think we're living through history? I wouldn't even know there was a pandemic going on if it wasn't for the media.
And the survival rate for healthy people under the age of 60 is close to 100%.
We are only at the beginning of the Botswana variant. Any resemblance of normality will be kicked down the road even further. Out of sight perhaps.
Will you stop, there are lads on here who will have the stomachs pulled off themselves tonight at the thought of it.
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/vaccinationstatusweeklyreports/Vaccination%20Status%20of%20ICU%20admissions.pdf
Between April 1st and November 20th 2021: • 626 persons (aged 15 + years) were admitted to ICU with confirmed COVID-19 infection.
Of the cases in fully vaccinated individuals (n=181): 174 cases (96%) were reported to have an underlying medical condition
says nothing of unvaccinated cases tough
Being obese isn't listed as an underlying condition in Ireland, but morbidly obese is...
I wonder if they included obese, what number would that me...also undiagnosed illness as well, like people with diabetes but not yet diagnosed
It's the biggest event globally since WW2 and it's impact will be playing out for years to come, long past the time COVID is just another sniffle or a tale oldies tell kids.
Economically and politically it's impact will really be felt
If you take out people with underlying conditions, you will have the majority over 30.
Asthma, blood pressure, diabetes, overweight etc etc, the list is endless
You'll have a lot who run marathons sub 4 who have underlying conditions.
At least another year of this is guaranteed. We won't be in much difference into where we are this time next year, except "emergency powers" will be even more emergency. A ton of civil disorder around Europe.
If that doesn't get you, there is the hyperinflation on the way. Russia turning off the gas pipes because Big Vlad in the Kremlin, senses opportunity. And that Euro ain't worth as much as it used to.
The best days are behind us folks.
That's all True but Britain will not be the worst in Europe by a longshot when this is over.
The economic impact can't be underestimated, 25% increase in global debt, the Brits borrowed more than they did for WW2.
It may well lead to a more austere world for a generation, it may not.
I think what was done had to be, people would have stayed home either way.
Either way, the world will be divided into WW2 to 2019 and then after.
Big story next year globally will be food prices and supply. Fertilizer is about 2.5 times dearer here, more elsewhere
The Arab Spring followed on from nitrogen (urea) Fertilizer hitting 800 dollars a tonne for a few months. 1100 now is common and rising quickly and expected to last at highs well in to next year and that's only part of the news.
Stuff like masks is part of the new normal which on the whole does not bother me. What really matters is getting on with life, which for me includes things like rebuilding social circles and finding a new partner. From here in London it looks like Ireland wants to criminalise socialising again.
I'd welcome the return of Trump to get life back to normal, he was pretty much the only world leader with a touch of optimism about getting over the virus at some stage. Yes deaths were huge in the US but their obesity problem is too.
You understand that his “optimism” was based on his lack of understanding and being an idiot. This is the guy who asked could we drink bleach and shine UV light inside the body to kill the virus. You can’t fix stupid.
What are you on about? You do understand that people are not housebound here, that you can go to the pub and that you can meet people.
Looking at the news this morning, if this newly identified strain is as infectious/deadly as suspected, Britain will be going into lockdown as well if it makes their shores.
Britain is the world leader in testing for this, they'll find it there but it's going to be only a short matter of time. It's already outside of South West Africa.
And yet more people died of 'covid' since Biden inherited many fully working vaccines, than died at the peak of Trump when all the other stuff you just said is a copypasta of some made up stuff.
Eh, he said it on live TV.
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