Mercedes-Benz have been an engine supplier in F1 for as long as Red Bull have been a sponsor, if not longer. Look at their commitment to Formula E, or lack there of. Driver and constructors champions and still pulling out after only 3 years. They spent almost 2 before that announcing their impending arrival.
One things for sure, this isn't some side project for the Daimler group.
Red Bull have 2 teams in F1 and have shown much more commitment to F1 than many of the big automotive names. Not liking them because they don't have a "long, historic tradition" in F1 is a bit irrational. As for them being there as a marketing tool, that goes for every team in F1.
Their engine drop off is still quite high, so it will be "fast" but probably not Brazil fast.
It doesn't help that we're not in the mood to listen to a Brit whine about how mean his European counterpart is.
For the sake of getting back on the fence, Merc are just as unbearable when they claim to be underdogs.
I was skeptical with RB barking on about this...but this video is quite strong.
Ya, Red Bull and the FIA haven't cracked how it's illegal but this is the guy we should all be listening to with a 120p video...
Nice bit of whataboutery there.
The point, as it went over your head, is post a credible source with the same video with better quality besides a lunatic on twitter. Nobody else is using this as evidence.
Yes, Red Bull has shown commitment to and contributed to the development of many forms of motorsport throughout the world. I think the same could be said of Merc, Renault and McLaren. Ferrari, less so - their focus is only on F1. At least those along with Aston Martin are in the business of manufacturing automobiles. Red Bull sell energy drinks. I don't know if Mateschitz is a real motor racing fan indulging his true passion or not. He could just have easily bought Manchester United.
McLaren have two pretty talented drivers that are really fun guys and seem to have a big draw on social media, i get the feeling that its especially for younger audiences. Great stuff.
Yeah, a climate change denier isn't exactly the best source for anything really.
The video hasn't been edited. You are taking issue with the account and not the content.
RB have presented similar evidence to the FIA, hence the new wing tests. I don't care much for the twitter account, but the video itself is quite interesting, wouldn't you say?
The video does give the FIA something to look at. They've already increased the load tests in Qatar. Whether they are still not doing real world loads in the right locations is up for debate.
Don't the FIA still have the wing from Brazil too? I hope we are not going to see another secret sweetheart deal like Ferrari got with their engine. If it's flexing then issue a new technical directive and let the public know.
Barcelona to continue to hold a GP until 2026.
After watching the video about three dozen times, I can see it now. If it is passing the FIA's current tests, then there is no problem but from a safety perspective I can see this loophole being closed off pretty quickly.
Well its not the twitter user the FIA are examining its the video.
Didnt the FIA use some of Chandhok's Sky analysis once to penalise a team?
Only thing I can find on that is Vettel got penalised for an unsafe rejoin in Canada 2019 which Ferrari appealed using Sky Pad analysis by Karun. But even someone as respected as Karun with HD video analysis wasn't able to help Ferrari get it over turned so the penalty stood.
Not exactly. Ferrari tried to use Chandoks analysis as a defence for the Canadian Grand Prix penalty in 2019. It got thrown out in between the fits of laughter.
Vettel blocking of Hamilton that day was a much milder offence than Verstappens one in Brazil. Vettel was unlucky to get penalised for it if I remember correctly.
I believe this is from Brazil, and there were suggestions that the wing stopped doing its trick at Qatar.
Is there any truth to rumour that the Jeddah track is still unfinished and might not be complete by next week? Not a huge amount of articles online (probably Saudis censoring!) but what happens if it’s not ready?
Surely way too late in the day to arrange a different track? Unless Bahrain outer came into play? Doubt they would sacrifice the Saudi money though…
I haven't even heard much discussion of the tight completion timescale. They just said its tight but the event organisers said it will be ready in time - end of discussion.
It will be embarrassing for everyone involved if the track isn't ready. I'd imagine they will focus on the essentials and sacrifice things like fans and service roads. If they just make the camera facing things lol good and make the safety features functional, and sacrifice everything else, they might male everything work.
From what I understand the track itself, as in the road surface is ready. It might just be a stand or two that'll need to be refunded. Think how quickly Formula E can get Street tracks up and down.
I'm morbidly curious as to how much of a sh*tshow this will be, but knowing Masi there'll be about 10 minutes of green flag running by Sunday and then 2 laps behind the safety car, along with 6 hours of David Croft regurgitating Saudi-affiliated LinkedIn posts.
Carlos Sainz 😂
It looks like there will be a track and barriers in the middle of a building site by the looks of it.
Ricciardo great as well. 😀
Can see this being a Korea 2010 style event.
Track will probably have very little grip at the start, depends on how much it ramps up though.
Edit* just saw a tweet that says the last layer of the track was laid THIS WEEK! How long does it usually take to cure?
Korea 2010 wouldn't be as bad as Turkey last year in fairness. Even Portimao looked well short of full speed at the end. Merc (Hamilton especially) have done well in those kinds of conditions before. The track looks like a Merc track as well the more I see it, whole lotta full throttle.
This Saudi track looks very high speed, long, no run offs etc. It’s definitely going to be hard on tires and with a new surface there may be the potential for carnage. Hopefully nothing too massive. Free practice might be more interesting than usual.
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