No, because it doesn't even have a paper edition to wipe your hole with. It's a clickbait extravaganza designed to be shared by Muppets on Facebook with an "dis gubernmint is terdible isn't it"
Well a tweaked version for Delta would be better.
But dont the figures from Israel still show big effect from the boosters in the cohorts most vulnerable to covid?
Something to look forward to if you live in Germany i suppose.
It will be same here just a different percentage of vaccinated v recovered v dead.
Nope, it's a bastion of journalistic integrity.
In true German style - directly saying it as it is.Probably comes a point where there isn't much more you can say, than this.
It's mad to think by end of March we'll probably have recorded over 1 million cases since the pandemic started.... who knows what the actual number will be by then. Potentially half the population could have had covid by then.
They don't appear to be reluctant to bring in restrictions at all (although what's left to restrict, I don't know). Members of the Government have been in the media non-stop warning people to behave or else lockdowns and/or restrictions will be introduced. O'Dea of Limerick the latest. And the people are supposed to be their boss, and yet they just talk down to people all the time.
I really don't understand why there is this insistence on sowing panic and spreading fear in Ireland especially. Okay, I've spoken before about how the fourth estate in Ireland is moribund and how the political system, and by extension the democratic system is moribund, but so many academics, scientists and doctors insist on giving no hope to people and on doing tremendous harm to people's mental health and wellbeing. That I don't understand. They're not in government and are speaking as private persons. And I'm not just talking about now. I mean since the start of the two weeks to flatten the curve. It's been nothing but negativity.
Have you ever heard an Irish public health person say anything similar to the following:
"The formal lockdowns had enormous consequences and to pretend otherwise is not right. The other thing I'd say is that the fear of the disease itself was part of the public health strategy. It was essentially a inducement of panic, so that if anyone said anything that suggests that, well, for children, maybe the disease is not so harmful. You get jumped on. The New York Times spent all of last summer trying to panic the parents over sending their children back to school, for instance.
... and the fear is part of the public health... I mean, I don't know how else to say it, I mean, I probably think of a more polite way to say it, but it was essentially a propaganda campaign to induce panic in the population." - Professor Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University
There were a handful of doctors who tried to offer a bit of balance, but they were swiftly shut down, unfortunately.
Sickening isn't it. They will always blame their neighbor before they blame their government. Imagine believing that covid would go away if we all closed "nightclubs" . Simpletons
Jesus, is it just gullibility or what with these people saying "oh it's the 13th or the 7th or the 28th that hospitality will close again"
I mean it could well be (the 28th was one i heard at the weekend), but it's not being decided now. It totally flies in the face of all lockdowns so far which have pretty much been decided on relative short notice and restrictions kicking in soon after. I refuse to believe that the government are deciding now to close down in over a months time (or three weeks, whenever) when so much can happen in between.
If the analysis of the age groups mostly being infected indicates that it is young people gathering in places like nightclubs, you don’t see the benefit in lowering that risk of spread?
But it has happened in the past that decisions were made a few months in advance. In England, for example, the journalist Neil Clark has an inside source in the government. His inside source told him in January that restrictions wouldn't be eased until July: https://mobile.twitter.com/neilclark66/status/1345017917205868545
Sure enough, that's what happened.
A) That's England
B) There is a big difference with regards applying restrictions vs removing them. We had a roadmap here for example in the early summer for a few months in advance detailing proposed relaxations.
New Zealand's failure to control covid was a message to the rest of the world that lockdowns don't work. Every new lockdown proves the last one didn't work , or the one before that. Its almost been two solid years of curfew , that obviously hasn't worked either. Lockdown are proven to do more harm than good. They destroy peoples lives , close pubs for good and bankrupt small business.
Happy Christmas all.
Jesus wept, New Zealand has a population almost identical to Ireland, so far In New Zealand, from 3 January 2020 to6:10pm CET, 22 November 2021, there have been 9,811 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with 40 deaths, reported to WHO.
How on earth could New Zealand’s policies be considered a failure?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/
Your first statement simply isn't true.
I remember the "steady 1000 cases per day" but that was way back, numbers have been gradually increasing since September or so. Nightclubs didn't open until the end of October.
Spot on - 70 outbreaks in Pubs since the end of June out of a total of 3284 outbreaks in that intervening period. Only 1 outbreak in a pub identified in Ireland in the last 7 days.
Source: COVID-19 Weekly Outbreak Report Week 45 2021 web v.1.0.pdf (hpsc.ie)
But you will still have the killjoys on here demanding that pubs early or at worst close down fully.
Back at the very beginning people with interests in keeping the economy open were like 'why no we couldnt possibly close up for a forthnight, i might lose €1.50".
What's an outbreak when it's at home and how does an outbreak relate to cases? There were 35,000 cases last week but 3,284 outbreaks in the last 5 months. So what use is outbreak stats without also knowing where individual cases are coming from?
It looks like they don't have a clue where people are catching covid. Some countries can identify where individuals are catching covid.
yes, i would rather what we have now a million times (hospitals are the same as now, actually worse every year for a long long time) over than 2 years of lockdowns and not being allowed to leave your country. now granted, im sure its a beautiful country but it seems they have no plan b..
Their approach makes no sense unless they want to lock down the country for ever, which is impossible obviously.
What happens now when they get a big 'Delta' outbreak or some new variant they haven't encountered yet? It'll cause havoc because they will have zero herd immunity.
And that's just the Covid part of it, we won't know for a few years probably what the overall impact of lockdowns on mental health, suicide rate, domestic violence rates etc. but it's grim.
Schools. Has to be.
But so what. We can't close them again so we just need to keep going.
So surely they'll close the place down again before Xmas if ICU numbers keep going up on current trend?
As far as I know an outbreak is 2+ cases in any given setting in the eyes of NPHET.
Thanks.
So they have only identified 3284 instances where 2 or more people caught covid in a setting in the last 5 months? So it's just a token of gesture to trace transmissions. I wouldn't take it as any kind of serious indication of where people are, or are not, contracting covid.
That's what NPHET will kick and scream for. Question I ask of them is what is going to stop Ireland having exactly the same problem this time next year?
The only people talking about lockdown are the public and the media.
Every time a politician is asked, they distance themselves and the government from it.
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