Climate Bolloxolgy.

Agriculture = food & drink

Try livin without it.

Or maybe you want to go Chinese and start eating all sorts like birds, rats, snakes, cats, dogs, etc.

BTW how many of you devout greens own dogs and cats ?

Come on lets be having you.

How environmentally unfriendly is that household doggy you have ?

Feeding a lump of an animal that does SFA.

Hell the bible of lots of greenies, the Guardian published a review of a book, backed up by findings from the New Scientist that pets are bad for the environment.

According to the authors . . . it takes 0.84 hectares [2.07 acres] of land to keep a medium-sized dog fed. In contrast, running a 4.6-litre Toyota Land Cruiser, including the energy required to construct the thing and drive it 10,000km a year, requires 0.41 hectares. Dogs are not the only environmental sinners. The eco-footprint of a cat equates to that of a Volkswagen Golf.

So to help save the environment you should shoot your neighbours dogs and eat them.

I think Eamon Ryan has a black lab.

How fooking inconsiderate of the environment.

I think the term runoff is a misconception. The problem from slurry comes from spreading it too heavy or when ground conditions do not suit i.e the ground is sapping wet. It's not the thick slurry that gets to the rivers it's the dissolved nutrients mainly nitrates (NO3). Reason being that the ground (the plants/grass) do not get a chance to use these nutrients. So instead of the slurry being used by the plant it get dissolved and soaks away into the water courses.

Look at the label on a bottle of Mineral water and you'll see a listing for Nitrate concentration. Have a look at the level in the Ballygowan water and draw your own conclusions

It's more than than just the price of food. The price of everything needs to increase to combat climate change and pollution. The world is awash with cheap crap, especially cheap plastic crap. Food at least is essential for human life. It's a sad fact but most of items, clothing etc are cheaper to dispose of than they are to get repaired. There's a fairly seedy underbelly to consumerism and what most developed economies have become. Most are propped up by cheap labour, and substandard living condition for workers. Most of the clothing we wear is manufactured in conditions close to slavery.

I take your point with regards to food. I'm only 30 years old and I remember steak being a serious luxury when I was growing up in the 90s. I could walk into any supermarket tomorrow and buy 2 very high quality steaks for €10-12. Not to mind what you could get at a good butchers for a few euro more. The issue is that the farmer who reared the animal is struggling to get by and the foreign national workers who processed the meat can't earn a living wage and live in squalor. But someone somewhere is making big money, and cheap imported labour is their fuel.

If we're serious about saving the planet there is no way the consumerism we're used to can continue. These 2 things are simply not compatible. But we in the Western world have gotten used to quality meat for half nothing, cheap shite from amazon and clothing made by slaves in Bangladesh that we can throw out after 1 wear. It's likely that we'll plod along adjusting little bits around the edges and not addressing climate change with a health dollop of virtue signalling thrown in and eventually crises will begin to strike and we'll be in a mad panic to return to subsistence living!

Irish farmers being lumbered with methane nonsense while Russia and others carry on this sort of thing: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/russia-europe-gas-pipeline-climate-impact-2021/?srnd=premium-europe

"Gazprom says it released enough methane to trap the same amount of heat as 25.5 million tons of CO₂ last year. But that only takes into account the warming impact over a century. Methane is much more dangerous in its first two decades in the atmosphere, during which Gazprom’s 2020 emissions would exceed the annual carbon footprint of the entire city of Paris or the Chinese industrial hub of Tianjin."

what part do you play?

I think there is a lot of over reaction from both sides here, the statement made said we are going to cut methane emissions by 30% but not nationally, globally. As anyone can see from a methane map of the world we are not the problem but I expect we will have to cough up to the countries that do.

I don’t see the national herd being reduced anytime soon if at all. I’m saying this as a rural dwelling ex Green, Ex because the whole movement has become politicised and weaponised, The sums of money changing hands on a Global level to do with Climate change is mind boggling and as always the rich get richer and the poor poorer.

The whole Global Warming…oh it’s called a Climate Crisis now has been blown out of all proportion. This has been done in no small part by brainwashing a whole generation of kids, I don’t know how they managed to pull that one off.

Theres no doubt that EVs will be way cleaner for the air in our cities and that is a very good thing, less reliance on fossil fuel is very positive and finding ways to not pollute our waterways and Oceans is the direction to go in.

A good example of how certain 'activists' think. I would consider this some form of sick ideology. Revelling in the prospect of the possible collapse of an industry is sad. This thinking does not contain the essence of sustainability.

Over half the waterways in Ireland are of good or excellent status actually according to the EPA. Still must improve but we have the second best water quality in the EU

It's getting like something out of the last Ross OCarroll Kelly book.

The hysteria from the greens and media here that a small little island with minimal big industry is going to save the world by over carbon taxing its citizens and agricultural industry is getting out of hand. I've read and heard a few interviews lately with so called "campaigners" who are allowed go off on 1 without any balanced objection or argument

The majority of them like one prized prick alluded to a few days ago are sourcing the majority of their diet from imported food that's basically been produced by slave labour, the f**King hypocrisy of it all...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/spains-sea-of-plastic-where-europe-gets-its-produce-migrants-get-exploited/a-47824476

Job losses - being welcomed as fantastic news at 1:29 am. !!!!!!