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National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Brilliant. I was chatting to a few around Aughrim, Liscappul, Urraghry, Glan areas and similar stories. Modems landed in most cases and/or install dates next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,674 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Serious work going on the R610 Rochestown Rd. between Hop Island and Passage Soccer club today by KN/NBI. Long stretch of road closed off. Assume connecting the already live Rochestown area with Passage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭NBAiii


    Yes, they are using two models of DPs or splice closures as NBI refer to them. They are both manufactured by 3M. The larger one would be used for its higher cable and/or fusion splice capacity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭NBAiii


    3500 orders and 2246 connections made as of the 8th October.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Hococop


    Anyone an update on their area, I've hit the 6 month of pre order now ha, hopefully so



  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭johnnyboy08


    It's not much but there's hedge and tree cutting going on in the Wexford DA eg along road from Wexford Town, Larkinstown, Ballyhogue in preparation for fibre cable going up. That DA is due for connection from Nov 21 to Jan 22 and it's good to see some progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    No definition of "proper broadband" included but, assuming it's FTTP, then 10% would be c.240K premises.

    Which means either

    • that the recently announced Eircom 200K will not be deployed within the IFN timeframe (2024/5) or
    • the NBP will run late by about 100K at the end of 2026, or
    • some mixture of the two.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1 icoa


    I got an NBP date of 2025-2026, so assuming that they wouldn't reach that target either, I got Starlink a few weeks ago. It's not cheap and it's not perfect, but I can get up to 200mbps and using a booster aerial on my house I was getting as low as 0.01mbps in the evening from my eir router. Starlink say that they will be offering a phone service using their system soon, with a battery back-up in case of power cuts, so no regrets so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    Plenty of work still happening in the Monard area outside of Tipperary Town, no sign of DPs yet though. Probably expect the Dec 21-Feb 22 to get pushed tbh despite the pretty much daily presence of various contractors, seems whatever they're doing along the N24 is taking them a while to do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭cargo


    Still no movement on the Dundalk DA. Anyone got any info at all? Just saying Oct - Dec but been in pre-order for weeks now and all works seem to be done up around the area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    Update (in bold)...

    Area: West Wicklow. Specifically the lane I live on.

    Some people have asked for timeframes. So in my particular case (might apply overall)...

    September 2020: One man and an Actavo/NBI van doing a survey.

    December 2020: One man taking pictures of poles etc.

    26th March 2021: Contractors cutting hedges and trees.

    30th August 2021: A crew arrived and strung fiber between the poles.

    During the week of 11th Oct 2021 to 15th Oct 2021, a crew arrived and installed a lot of DPs (much more than I expected).

    Anticipated availability: October 2021 - December 2021.

    Anticipated availability: January 2022 - April 2022.

    Anticipated date for connection: April 2022 - June 2022

    We're still 6-8 months away from connection even though DPs are now in place.

    Does this sound right or is there room for optimism for earlier availability?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 pman35


    Hi all. First time comment on this. Has anyone any information on the castlebar DA? Its down for connection between (jan 22 & Mar 22) but looking around the area theres no sign of any fibre cable up on any poles yet. Surely they won't get all the cable and DPs up that quick? And ready for connection by Mar 22? With all of the push backs during the year already im starting to lose hope.



  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭johnnyboy08


    Welcome @pman35

    I wouldn't be worried yet unless your date changes. I'm in Wexford with dates from Nov 21 to Jan 22 and there's no sign of cable or DPs yet. There has been a lot more noticeable activity in the last week with hedge cutting, additional ducting and vans checking routes which would make me think cable and DPS will follow soon with splicing and connections in Jan/Feb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Hi,

    Moved into my new build house last weekend and got my NBI connection last Tuesday morning 👌 couldn't have timed it better even though there was a bit of a struggle to actually get me surveyed as I didnt have an Eircode when they did the initial surveys.

    Anyway the install went as smotth as butter... but TBH a lot of that was down to me as I made sure I had everything in place. I had about 100m of ducting running to the nearest pole on the road with draw rope and a couple of junction boxes where there was a change of direction. This duct went to my ETU box and on the internal of the NTU I has a double power socket and a CAT6 termination. The put the ONT on the internal wall and actually covered my CAT wall plate so you cant even see CAT6

    The CAT 6 then goes to my rack where I have the IT setup of my dreams, Unifi Dream Machine PRO, 24 Port POE switch and 5 access points...I can get 500mbps wifi in practially every corner of my house. I also have about 32 CAT6 Drops around the house and hard wire everything if possible

    I went with the 1Gbps package from Pure Telecom and Im not going to get too upset if I don't see speeds of 900+mbps in every speed test I do and it does vary a lot....

    My Parents just got connected yesterday as well but that was a whole different story that involved about 10 crews in total, three separate days and digging up main roads and their driveway....but to be honest as well and fair play to my old man who is 87 he had laid about 150m of ducting 10 years ago that could use. Anyway my parents can watch mass now on YouTube without any buffering 😂


    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    One comment I would have thought my pings would have been better!! I had Eir FTTH a couple of years ago and I used to get single digit pings....

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    87 and getting ftth? Bloody hell. They'd be my parents age and they grew up with oil lamps. Great to see people like them embracing the modern tech.


    Your setup sounds sweet too though hehe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    Do me a favour and speedtest it between 8 and 10pm and see if you see below 10% of your rated speed, or your ping shooting up to 10x what it normally is.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Eir pings are likely to be higher on NBI because it's not Eir's network so I would expect a few extra ms over Eir's FTTH Network.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Agent Avenger



    I’ve just heard recently that all of the Carrigaline deployment area should obviously have been on the line from Carrigaline but it’s already at full capacity which is why they still haven’t connected Passage and Monkstown. So that line you saw them working on has been brought all the way from Midleton, through the Jack Lynch tunnel and all the way around for the last few houses, not sure of the exact numbers, I’d guess somewhere between 150-300. It seems very inefficient.

    The only thing is I’m pretty sure there are about 8,500 premises in the Midleton DA and there are only about 4,500 in the Carrigaline DA. If Carrigaline was already at full capacity (this came from a manager in charge of the local network build) how will they fit that many premises on the Midleton line especially since it’s serving premises across the harbour too?! I would assume this is why the Midleton rollout has been delayed too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Mor-Riomhaire


    It appears that the 5 Ribbons in the Roscommon DA have all gone to pre-order status. A friend of mine near the Galway Road, shown as pre-order on NBI website is being connected by Eir (KN to do install) this Thursday. Anyone else hear of connections this early?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Can someone explain how this would be the case? Surely the DAs are sized proportionately to exchange capacity? Is it a fibre technology issue (ports,etc.) or lack of physical space for equipment in the exchange that would cause something like this? I would have assumed fibre needed less physical space in the exchanges due to the multiplexing afforded by splitter between the premises and the exchange....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    Nope. Out near Knockcroghery here and no word on install yet. Looking good for Xmas though by the sounds of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 189 ✭✭Agent Avenger



    I’d love to know too as I didn’t think it would as much of an issue for fibre! I don’t know much about how it works but I thought fibre cables would be able to handle a higher volume of premises at least. I’m going to try and ask them for some clarification when they eventually get around to our house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 moc1985


    Had KN out today, site survey as they need traffic management to run from the pole.on the road to the gable end of the house

    apparently that will be within 48 hours

    I've waited 7 years and suffered imagine for that length so I'll be patient 😌

    Oatfield,ballinasloe



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  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭bdogg


    Blackrock, Dundalk neck o' the woods

    Preorder:16/09/21 via Digiweb

    Update: 01/11/21: "Thank you for your recent Fibre Broadband order from Digiweb. The service will be live in December and you will soon receive your install date via SMS."



  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Keepitclean


    Just finished the install now. Got here just before 1pm. He had a hard time bringing the cable from the pole outside my house to the DP a few poles away. But got it from an old duct to my house no problems after that.

    Speeds are very good compared to my old ones.

    So happy out now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Roscommon Town neck o' the woods

    Preorder:01/10/21 via Digiweb

    Update: 01/11/21: "Thank you for your recent Fibre Broadband order from Digiweb. The service will be live in December and you will soon receive your install date via SMS."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭mun1


    fedamore , Co Limerick

    preorder since april 2021.

    update from Digiweb

    Thank you for your recent Fibre Broadband order from Digiweb. The service will be live in December and you will soon receive your install date via SMS."

    the fibre is coming, the fibre is coming ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭NBAiii


    As far as I can see you have never been part or the Carrigaline deployment area nor the Midelton area. Here is a section of map of the two areas, Carrigaline in blue and Midelton brown.

    The red line is the backhaul cable from the Mahon PoH to Midelton. It passes through the Jack Lynch tunnel. It has always been part of the design, Midleton cannot go live without being connected to Mahon.

    What you have been told makes little sense. A deployment area doesn't magically become full. They would be well planned in advance to accomodate a specific number of premises.

    I have speculated to you before that there is an OLT in Mahon that would serve your area, I cannot be sure of this as I haven't seen maps confirming it but to say that you would be connect to the OLT in Midleton seems far-fetched. The cable distance to Mahon from the Midleton OLT is nearly 24km, for it to then travel down to Passage West and further would be pushing the limits of the technology. I just don't see it.

    What may have happened and this is just my speculation, is that they had intended to launch your area with Carrigaline but have run into delays. They want to get paid for Carrigaline so have now pushed your area into Midleton.

    I'd be interested to hear if you spoke yourself to the build manager and if so did you ask him if there is an OLT in Mahon?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭db


    Same here in Clonlara, Co Clare. It'll be great to have it in for Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Mikefitzs


    Got an email update re connection in our area in Clare. Between Jan 25 and Dec 26. Why even bother with such a **** update, what's the point. You get a bit excited when the email comes and then you get the massive drop - 5 fn years more to wait.

    Just a passenger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭joe123


    Did anything ever come of the acceleration talk? Thought we were meant to hear weeks ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    I was hoping you'd jump in @NBAiii you big insider you!

    Thanks for the detail, but I sincerely hope you're wrong about DA premises shuffling for the sake of getting paid. It makes sense from a commercial point of view, but you'd imagine the DECC would have information on the number of premises in each DA, and that if those numbers are going down in one DA, and rising correspondingly in a neighboring DA, questions will have to be asked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,640 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    That was for the 7 year plan, this is what they said at committee about bringing that back to 5 years

    Chairman: When will we get an idea of whether NBI is bringing the timeframe back? Is the intention to bring it back to five years? I am not saying it is achievable but is that the target?


    Mr. T.J. Malone: The target is to see if we can do it within five years. We are currently evaluating all of the different elements and components that feed into that. As the Chairman might appreciate, we are six months behind the original seven years at the moment. We are actively out there getting to see what is and is not feasible. We are confident we can deliver the seven-year plan and that we can deliver it in under seven years. At this point, however, we are not sure of the extent to which that will be the case. That will not be until we get all of the different criteria back and understand what that gives us. That is ongoing and active and we are working-----


    Chairman: When will NBI know that? When does Mr. Malone anticipate NBI will be able to give clarity around bringing back the timeframe?


    Mr. T.J. Malone: We will have a very good idea what those timeframes look like by the end of this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭NBAiii


    I was more trying to fit the story told to Agent Avenger about being moved to Midelton. I assume if it were to happen it would be with the consent of DECC, but I have no evidence of it happening. I could well be way off with the theory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 niallniall


    Hi,

    I have one query,

    When the efibre roll out is eventually installed onto my existing "Part-Fibre" line which claims to provide up to 100mB.

    I actually get about 35mb+ as my line is only capable of supporting a 50mB data signal.

    Will this upgrade mean I will get closer to the 100mB?

    Any genuine advice and suggestion will be appreciated.

    N



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭joe123


    Not that I expect them to catch up or accelerate anyways, but suppose that it means they aim to either finish by end of 2024 (5 years) or end of 2026 (full 7 years)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Pique


    Your old line is defunct once the new one is installed. It replaces the old one, not connects to it. You can then get up to 1gbps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭db


    You are most likely not included in the NBI intervention area as you already have 35mb bandwidth. Check your eircode on the NBI website to see if you are included.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭nagel


    Nbi and Imagine,

    Just had a nice imagine salesman at the door , said that they are contracted by NBI to fill the gap until fibre is in my area (jan 25 to dec 25). Offering 29.99 for first 6 mts then 59.99 phone and calls included. anyone know anything about this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭alec76


    Fair play to them, I've thought they couldn't suprise me anymore.

    ps.Stay away from them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,640 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    If such a scheme existed NBI would have announced it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Imagine are Imagine - I use them myself as they are the only provider available to me. Depending on where you live they can vary from acceptable to utterly appalling. See the Imagine thread for details of how good and bad they can be.

    Did they actually give you anything with that "pitch" written down?

    The "Contracted by the NBI" bit , because that part is an outright lie and they should be reported for it, even if it's just that one Sales person trying it on , they shouldn't be allowed get away with that.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Complete and utter lies by Imagine. They are getting desperate now. Imagine have no connection to the NBI as that is a FTTH solution and Imagine is basic wireless. Imagine was one of the first solutions to be dropped from the NBI tender as their technology is not fibre and not future proofed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,640 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I wonder if this has been sanctioned by Imagine or just a solo by one of their sales people, I assume imagine they'll deny all knowledge in either case.

    Easy for Imagine to trawl the NBI map to identify and target those premises far away from a fibre connection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,640 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    A 50 Mbps line, as already mentioned, is likely to be outside an NBP intervention area. Check the NBI map at https://nbi.ie/map/.

    Your current efibre line is copper from a cabinet or exchange with a max speed of 100 Mbps close to the cabinet, but speed decreases with distance. Copper is now on life-support and likely gone by the end of the decade, no further upgrades.

    Open eir are rolling out fibre to areas like yours as part of their IFN (urban fibre) rollout over the coming years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭nagel


    Id say it was a solo run , when I asked when this agreement was reached he told me it was 3 weeks ago, but on the card dropped into neighbours house

    tells a different story




  • Registered Users Posts: 16 niallniall


    Okay, I understand not being part of the great NBI plannned roll-out, but how do I get fibre, I was told by an Eir Engineer that all the lines will be upgraded eventually or will I have to apply for FTTH connected by Eir (KN to do install) at some stage?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,640 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Basically depends on when the other 2 commercial fibre providers roll it out to your area, open-eir and SIRO.

    This is the open-eir website, it has a link to their rollout map - https://www.openeir.ie/, they don't interact directly with the public as they are a wholesale provider only.

    otherwise contact one of the retail providers, such as eir, Vodafone, etc., to see if they have any update for your location.



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