For anyone still naive enough to think that the war in Afghanistan was to save a few peasant women from having to wear the burkha rather than to put a ring of steel around Chine I would let you know this. Biden has announced that the US and their pucky little lapdog, The UK, are to supply Australia with nuke subs. Fresh off their ignominious defeat in Afghanistan they are moving to a different tack. Keep the "3 eyes" on China and control the Pacific.
"...The longest submerged and unsupported patrol made public is 111 days (57,085 km 30,804 nautical miles) by HM Submarine Warspite (Cdr J. G. F. Cooke RN) in the South Atlantic from 25 November 1982 to 15 March 1983..."
I'd say the crew just get fed up.
The reactors on Nuclear subs output over 200 MW, so they have no lack of fresh water as it can be distilled from seawater by electrolysis. I can think of several ways for a sub to nab some fish.
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The stealth subs are an interesting concept. Like your country could be nuked but you stealth subs could stay out there for years, great deterrent.
EDIT: Food and water is the problem I guess
Most are not US bases, they are millitary bases belonging to other countries that allow the US to also use those facilities. I wonder if the map maker could make those circles a bit bigger for emphasis, they look a bit small?
You have to laugh at the Chinese getting into a tiz, claiming 8 subs will destabilise the region, when they have 74.
By the same token, why aren't Taiwanese aboriginal languages spoken there? Or Dutch and Spanish, as well as Japanese? If language is the measure of Nationality? Well that's Ireland fúcked then isn't it?
As for the Japanese claim to Taiwan, as early as the 16th century the Japanese laid claim and the 1895 treaty of Shimonoseki ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity. The defeat of Japan in WW2 led to administration of Taiwan being ceded to the Republic of China. Japan fully renounced sovereignty via the San Francisco treaty in 1951 and formalised ceding of Taiwan and Penghu Islands to the Republic of China via the treaty of Taipei in 1952.
At no point has Taiwan been part of modern China, much less the PRC.
The difference is see all of that blue stuff aka oceans China is laying claim to a lot of it ,and they have built their own bases in the region ,they have also banned other countries from accessing fishing grounds including sending armed naval and coastguard vessels to harness fisher men from other countries to prevent them from fishing in international waters and territorial waters that don't belong to China.
And alot of those so called US bases are everything from small radar installations to warehouse space .not necessarily major military bases that people usually make them out to be
Here's a map of US military bases in that region of the globe.
But sure, it's CHINA that's the one to be worried about.
Now, should we compare with Chinese military bases around the world?
America bad russians good would be a typical reply
LOL i just read this ridiculous post.
If Japan has a equally valid claim over the territory of Taiwan, then tell me: then why don't they speak JAPANESE there?
The chinese government is a far bigger threat to the world than COVID ever was although probably not a big as threat as climate change (which the chinese are also hugely responsible for).
effing Pirates..you must be desperate 😂
You need to brush up on your history.
So China is "threatening the Philippines" ehh...China has existed for 5000 years just a few hundred miles from the Philippines and never once did a Chinese soldier set foot in the Philippines.
The Philippines has been invaded by 3 nations, Spain, America and Japan.
The American invasion was especially brutal and can be considered a genocide, around 2 million Filipino's were slaughtered out of an estimated population of 9 million.
The Americans used concentration camps and invented torture techniques such as waterboarding in the Philippines.
Yeah they are nice guys to be portraying China as a threat to the Philippines 🤣
Im ok with csdp as it is. And would be happy to see it solidify into a standardized coalition.
Its existence is a good reason why I wont have to fight.
Unlike nato, which is always at it.
Well if you think so, maybe you should go join that big eu army they are considering … if they care so much about you , surely you feel the need to fight for it
In fairness, may not be "99%" and of course the language barrier doesn't help us but the government there is not very transparent at all (as we understand such things here).
I think most of what is supposedly "known" about what China are doing in Xinjiang for example has come from escapees/relatives accounts and from illegally leaked documents (i.e. whistleblowing). It's very easy for China (and their supporters) to deny it all, claim it is exaggerated/propaganda spread about by enemies of China.
We also still don't know what happened with Covid-19 and the bits of information that did emerge earlier in pandemic when situation was chaotic and before the govt. had full control are now being supressed in favour of an official narrative that "no one really knows where this disease came from - could have been Italy, or made in the US etc" - lets not look into it too much! Anybody asking unpleasant questions is quickly "hopped on" as trying to undermine China (see Australia).
So they DO give a fck about us then?
Suspended what? Why would they remove eus biggest flag bearers ? Our tds can’t wave the eu flag around enough cause they want nice cushy overpaid jobs there . All the big decisions done in eu are put in place for the main bloc… they not goin to be too concerned about the effects of their decisions on little islands like Ireland
So why havent we been suspended?
And eu couldn’t give two **** about us … they be happier if we went away with the Uk
Bit of a nonsense statement.
How do you know there's 99% hidden from us?
It is hidden because they don't want us to know, or just because we don't speak Chinese?
Which would be regular NATO munitions, which the US and UK subs have already been developed for... although it would be a nice clause in the contract for bespoke weapons systems
The only standardisation would be around procedures and communications ,they will use the same weapons your limited to what's available for a submarine in the first place
Thats only because you hear and can see some of Americas plans such as this, you should absolutely be more wary of china for the simple fact we dont hear about even 1% of what they are up to.
So if they're going to buy an already developed nuclear sub from the US or UK, they are going to just tweak the design so it's not NATO standard and make it Aus spec, which would have no integration benefits for the US or UK.... seems like a logical suggestion
Everybody assumes that. Neither the UK nor the US defence industries are in the habit of handing out free stuff.
What often happens is that the US or UK government hands out cash to foreign governments, in the form of "loans" or "aid", which the foreign governments then use to buy the products of the UK or US defence industries. But it's hard to see that happening here; Australia is not in the class of countries that can credibly be the recipient of soft loans or aid grants from the UK or the US.
You're assuming the Aussies are going to pay full whack for the subs
They had a deal with the French to build them 12 Diseal powered subs for the cost of $90 Billion AUD.
The cost of this new deal has not been released yet, but the cost for the Diseal subs was astronomical for a product that did not do the job correctly. Looking at the figures, nuclear seems to be the way to go alright. The Pacific and Indian oceans together comprise 66% of the world's oceans.
It will go ahead alright. This is the first time in over 60 years that the Americans are willing to share their Nuclear sub technology with anyone. They did it once with the UK back in the 1950's. Even allies like the Canadians, Israel, Japan don't have access to this American tech. Deals and policies like this are not made on the hoof, they are trashed over for years.
I saw someone on youtube say that when they made the French deal 5 years ago, the American deal was neither not on the table or possible. Now 5 years on and the nature of a more aggressive China is clear, the Americans were much more open to this deal, hence why they made it.
There is other stuff in this deal as well, like more Intelligence sharing and the Australians buying up the US Tomahawk missiles to be put on their destroyers. Also, access for American subs to dock and use Australian naval ports.
Tibet was conquered and is being colonised by the Han Chinese. This is just a fact.
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