Says the poster who just called him Moonpig?????
And back to that deathbed confession thing, you did bring it up but then asked everyone to delete your quote.
Looking at geohive maps from 1995, 2000 and 2005 I don't see any houses between Sophie's and the junction of the cul de sac with the 'main' road approx. half a mile away.
There is a more recently built house on the south side of the cul de sac, about 220m from the junction with the 'main' road but it doesn't seem to be on earlier geo hive maps.
As far as I can see the nearest houses would have been approx. another half a mile in either direction along the 'main' road.
Let's not get personal people!!
I know I called moonie out for probably being a gard the last day, and probably got annoyed with him/her several times since, but a few of the recent comments are bordering on trolling.
There's enough of that shite on twitter.
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The GSOC investigation found, through work carried out by a forensic scientist, that pages from a station 'Jobs Book' had been cut out possibly with scissors. They related to the time IB became a suspect.
GSOC believed it pointless to investigate further as one of the investigating officers who had access to the books had passed away.
That action is CORRUPT in itself and was carried out to cover up corruption.
'He' was talking about his wife upthread, but I suppose that proves nothing nowadays...
How do you know the others are guys?
What's with all the Greek code names for the guards? Almost like they were variants of a virus...
This is why I think MoonUnit is a woman. Everything a guy says is taken literally and noted for future use against him.
I meant to quote my post that you replied to.
Besides Alfie + Shirley, there is another house the opposite direction. It's not a mile, but maybe half a mile away. I believe that's where the visually impaired neighbour lived, who apparently heard a car at night. There is another house, more to the entrance of the "main road" on the left side, but I don't know if it's a mile away? It's possibly a bit more than that.
"12.5.39 It needs to be said at this point that, in the event, it was found to be unnecessary to take any statement from Mr A as Garda Epsilon was able to persuade Mr C not to pursue his assault complaint. Thus the question of pre-dating such a statement or inserting into it a possibly untrue allegation that Mr C threw the first punch never arose.
What is disturbing, however, is that suggestions could be made between two members of An Garda Síochána, without objection, that evidence could be slanted or falsified in these ways."
I asked where there was actual evidence of corruption and you replied with that excerpt, it seems clear that that was what you were implying.
Which 'neighbours', other than Alfie + Shirley the next nearest 'neighbours' were a mile away.
Posters looking for hard evidence on here of corruption are the same ones willing to condemn Bailey without any hard evidence. A little bit contradictory don't ya think?
Hard to get hard evidence of corruption when the body tasked with investigating corruption (GSOC), dont have any real powers and rely on the co-operation of gards (absolute joke of an organisation). Hard also to find corruption when the Judge ruling on the case was heavily compromised and handing out strange decisions in their favor. I think anyone without any bias knows there was serious corruption in this case and this was conveniently covered up so it would be difficult to prove. Sure they are gards, they know exactly what it takes to cover their tracks. The is more shameful because gards are given a privileged position in our society, they are trusted to uphold the law and be honest at the very least. You can maybe understand corruption in countries like Mexico where they are paid a pittance but here they are paid quite handsomely & looked after very well. Arrogance is what it smacks of, a group who feel they are above law and need to be brought back down to earth with a bang.
They are & have been treating the Irish public like fools in this case, lost gate here, lost a bottle of wine there, bit of bribery here, bit of sculdery there, sure what harm, Bailey probably did it. Lazy, half arsed & corrupt & that doesnt even cover half of it.
I saw a Guardian quote that 'neighbours heard wild cries in the night' but put it down to foxes. May go against ab early morning death?
When did I ever say they did? I merely provided people with reading material, whatever conclusion you draw from it is up to you.
And did they pre-date a statement?
It seemed fair game when Ian Baileys diaries and drawings were allowed to be used in court by Judge Moran and subsequently used to tarnish Bailey.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/journals-reveal-the-inner-thoughts-of-a-sex-obsessed-violent-heavy-drinker-26772427.html
"BIZARRE, rambling and sensational, Ian Bailey's personal diaries proved a bombshell at his high-profile 2003 libel case against eight newspapers.
There had been strenuous objections to the diaries being entered into evidence at Cork Circuit Civil Court but Judge Patrick Moran granted the newspapers, from Britain and Ireland, permission to use them in their defence.
The revelations from their pages dominated headlines for weeks to come and cast Bailey in an astonishing light."
Who knows anything about corrupt acts in this case? I surely don't know anything as fact, I've said several times I don't know who murdered sophie and it could have been Bailey, but I can look at what's publicly available about the case and draw my own conclusions to whether guards were corrupt in the case or not, regardless of who's the murderer.
The question was whether the 'confessions' were before or after he was arrested or named as a suspect, the examples I gave were all before he was arrested or named as a suspect. You said they were after. Clearly you are in the wrong here.
Having devious or corrupt thoughts never put anyone in jail though, did they? You can sue people for thinking about doing something wrong. What corrupt actions do you know about?
Biased, I think moonpig is.
Regarding Marie Farrell's boyfriend Chris Farrell
"In the recorded conversation of 18 April 1997, in the context of discussing the likelihood of Mr C making a formal complaint of assault against Mr A in a few days’ time, Detective Garda Delta asked Garda Epsilon: ‘There would be no point in A making an old statement first, I suppose.”
Garda Epsilon’s response was: “Sure we can always pre-date it if it comes to it, like, you know.”
Detective Garda Delta said: “Exactly, yeah.”
Garda Epsilon said: “No problem at all.”
It doesn't matter what date they actually arrested him, they decided long before that and its clear from the early statements (go and find them yourself please, I don't have time to do other people's homework)
But in the Graham Dwyer case evidence later turned up which could forensically link him to his victim.
A legal challenge is currently being heard about the admissibility of that evidence but it doesn't change the fact that Graham Dwyer was not charged until after evidence linking him to the victim was found.
That's not true Thompsonette. Bailey was arrested on Feb. 10th 1997.
Bill Fuller said their conversation in which Bailey appeared to give an account of how the murder happened was in late January 1997.
Malachi Reed got a lift from Ian Bailey on Feb. 4th, he said Ian told him 'Everything was going fine until I went up there with a rock and bashed her f* brains in'.
Helen Callanan rang him while he was still reporting on the case for the Sunday Tribune, this was before he was arrested.
If you can't see from those statements a willingness from the guards to act corruptly then you're either incredibly biased or incredibly stupid.
I've never considered that the murder might have happened in the morning after she's had breakfast. Loaf or bread could mean anything, but coffee or tea would be a good indication, after all one doesn't drink that before going to bed. However nothing in the kitchen would seem to indicate she had eaten breakfast, at least as I know.
However If the murder has taken place in the morning, it would still have to have been dark. I would suspect that daylight would only have come at 9 am at that day of December? It would have to have been around 7 or 8am at the latest that morning. I simply can't imagine the murderer bashing her head in in broad daylight.
Listening back to the West Cork podcast they mention the guard on the scene that morning Martin Malone stated that Ian had turned up in a long dark overcoat.
Pretty brazen move to murder someone hours earlier and turn up to the crime scene later wearing the same coat...
You can quote this as many times as you want, it doesn't change the fact that the file the gardai sent to the DPP (years before the tapes were discovered) still had the statement they were complaining about in it. Where is the actual corruption?
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