We haven't reported deaths daily in months. Last Wednesday it was 20 notified deaths for the previous 7 days.
India
Ahh Woody, please
Look in your backyard, India give me a break.
We had 10 covid deaths last week, 10 deaths out of thousands cases a week, and 75% of them cases were unvaccinated people
Come on guys, think 🤔
Median age was 82 ffs
Those were probably vaccinated people as well
Delta is killing no one in Ireland
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/weeklyreportoncovid-19deathsreportedinireland/COVID-19_Weekly_Death_Report_Website_v1.4.pdf
20 deaths and almost 10,000 cases a week and 7,500 of those cases are unvaccinated people too btw
Do the math there Wolf?
That’s 0.2% CFR
"Delta is killing no one here"
That's what you said. I'm questioning your figures. It just seems like you're making them up.
Zero deaths becomes, 7-14 a week, that becomes 20 deaths a week etc...
Just look at NI.
Same disease.
Deaths are circa ten times higher.
They have more in hospital in this wave than there first.
Around 400 people in NI in hospital with covid.
40% of our population.
Just got their vaccination process and reopening a little more wrong than ours.
Our vaccine certs for pubs helped spread and incentivised younger to vaccinate.
We are also vaccinated 12-15 year olds.
'Breakthrough infections' - while the term sounds pretty dramatic, the reality is not.
Some studies in Israel made it their goal to discover as many breakthrough infections as possible. A meaningful way to do that is to look at where they can most likely be found - hospital workers (high risk of infection), who were the earliest to be vaccinated (most advanced outcome of possible waning effects).
To find as many breakthrough infections as possible in hospital workers, you test everybody, often, including the majority of workers, who have no Covid symptoms.
These studies are perfectly valid, and interesting in an academic sense.
But the outcome, the percentages of breakthrough infections, are not the same as in the general public.
The vast majority of breakthrough infections goes unrecognised, because the people who 'suffer' from them have either minimal symptoms, or no symptoms whatsoever.
No symptoms, no testing.
Because vaccines work exactly as intended, and most breakthrough infections remain inconsequential because of that.
Delta
Amazing how quickly this thing takes over when you don't look at things every day.
Germany 4 weeks ago, it's as if they are some how 3/4 months behind others. Amazing how they kept it out for so long.
New one for the under 15's
Very interesting article in Irish Times which clearly shows how dangerous Delta variant is on unvaccinated population.
Vietnam managed to have practically no Covid Deaths(35) up until April of this year and life was normal.
However then Delta variant hit and with a dismal vaccination programme only 3% of population are fully vaccinated.
The result has been over 500,000 cases and just under 14,000 deaths in very short period.
They are under a very strict lockdown.
Just shows what could have happened without our vaccines.
On Vietnam..
It's kind of strange how the delta variant hits after countries have rolled out their vaccination programs..
Vietnam has had such a slow rollout, even compared to it's neighbours, that it was like watching a slow motion car crash, they're still only at ~13-14% 8 months after rollouts were beginning and they are getting supply from China.
According to article I read in Irish Times only 3% of population are vaccinated in Vietnam.
That's why the Delta variant has been able to spread so rapidly.
You've just delivered a classic payload of innuendo!! You're essentially suggesting that the vaccination programs are causing the delta variant, but you don't say it in those words! I've seen the same on conspiracy sites, where the authors say the same thing, 'isn't it strange how ...' and leave you to imagine the conspiracy.
As regards the vaccines causing the delta variant, how have we done so well in Ireland? With our high vaccination rates why haven't we been overrun by the delta variant, especially as we've opened up so much already. Then there's India, why did they get such a hammering from the delta variant despite their low vaccination rates?
The article you link to is written by someone who seems to be an anti-vaxxer. It's not surprising that the conclusions he draws from everything can only be explained by a conspiracy, whereas if he educated himself on the full picture he might draw quite different conclusions not requiring a conspiracy.
If you trust these people to educate you then you will likely stay in their orbit around falsehoods.
The conspiracy goes like this:
Government wants to somehow suppress people by vaccinating them. Some people RESIST. Now, the evil government has created a bioweapon called Delta that targets only the unvaccinated.
Pure evil.
And, in a way, brilliant at the same time.
😂😂😂
The delta variant has been around since October 2020. The UK and Israel started vaccinating in December 2020. December 2020 happens AFTER October 2020.
If anyone thinks Delta is less dangerous have a look at NI media today.
Mother and daughter (32) care workers unvaccinated died days apart.
DUP politician (46) married with young children unvaccinated died.
Any person unvaccinated who has not been infected before, especially over the age of 30 is playing with fire to be honest.
10% of 40 year olds in NI are unvaccinated, gets higher as you go down the age groups.
It is carnage up there (450 in hospital) and shows you what Delta can do with less mitigations.
Copied from the main thread - to put things in perspective.
You are not "playing with fire" being unvaccinated over 30 - over 60 maybe, but under that age the risks are very low. You can't let a few tragedies warp your way of thinking - pay attention to statistics, not individual news stories.
Tell that to the families.
One of the tyrone players was hospitalised.
These boys are seriously fit.
So fit in fact they won the All Ireland a mere 3 weeks later
I live close to Tyrone and had grudging respect for their all ireland wins.
I actually was happy for them this time around.
It was a covid war zone up there in their communities and to hear Kerry talking about none of our players got covid.
Nasty stuff, in this together?
Tyrone were worthy winners.
All the trauma and adversity probably did galvanise them.
You don't think that young people dying from a preventable illness is something to be concerned about ?
Why is it always.so bad in Northern Ireland highest rates always
They seem to be having a nightmare up there
The stats dont lie - news articles about individual tragedies are not giving the full picture.
Between 30-39 theres a 1 in 100,000 chance of dying from covid. And even less in younger age groups. That is a tiny risk. At population wide level then yes, some people will die. Not the overwhelming majority will not.
There has been a massive misunderstanding of the UK death data posted. The rates are Covid deaths per 100,000 people not per 100,000 cases. Eg. in the time period from wk 32 to wk 35, in people aged 30-39 not vaccinated for covid, 1 in 100,000 people in that group died of covid. In the time period the case rate in the UK was about 2,500 per 100,000. Without having the breakdown of cases by age you cant say for certain, however it would be far closer to a CFR in the 30-39 age group of 1/2500 than 1/100,000
31/33986 for 30-39 age group - my bad its not 1 in 100k, more like 0.091%
Whereas a vaccinated 50-59 year old has a risk of death of 0.12% - so unless we go around berating vaccinated 50 year olds for taking risks with covid, we shouldnt be doing the same to unvaccinated 30 somethings. Not aimed at your raind, but other posters are fearmongering based on a few tragedies in the news of younger people dying.
So 1 in 1,100. My 1 in 2,500 estimate was way off the mark. Looking deeper into the data this shows the underlying rate of covid infection is approx 6 times less in vaccinated. Yet some continue to claim vaccination does not prevent infection
6 times? Can you show your workings?
It looks to me about 2 times really at a glance: