Do you have a source for that R0?
Interesting snippet from Wikipedia:
According to research[26] of the MRC-University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research (CVR) scientists, human rhinovirus infection can block SARS-CoV-2 replication in cells of the respiratory tract by triggering an interferon response, and may reduce COVID-19 severity and disease burden.
That might partially explain the current low incidence of SC2 in schools, and go against the idea of keeping symptomatic kids out of school, at least until they test positive.
I am not sure what the issue is. You seem to want certainty, but nobody can give that to you at the moment. I would be more surprised if all experts agreed on something. I have 2 kids in primary school and I expect they will be off at times during the year.
Honestly I'm not expecting certainty, but at a minimum a coherent approach for all concerned.
As I've said, I'm not a parent, can only go on reporting and speaking numerous friends & neighbours who are parents and the situation seems quite chaotic given the fact there was months to prepare for a return to school. Just as an example, I live quite rural, 4 families within a 2 mile radius have children who've been sent home.
Chronic under planning from the minister has resulted in a farcical situation but i expected no less.
Parents will have to expect that it is likely their kids will be out from time to time during the year. The main thing is that we don't return to the laughable remote learning for young primary school kids.
Fair enough, just wondered what was going on generally and yes, I agree with your sentiments
It's interesting how so many of the voices who six months ago argued locking incoming travellers in hotel rooms was going to insulate Ireland from Covid now argue schools can be insulated from Covid. All measures in schools are surely just delaying the inevitable. Covid is already endemic and people are going to live freely in wider society - including schoolkids meeting up after school etc. Put all schoolkids in hazmat suits and I guarantee you 10 minutes after the closing bell you'll find all the kids without the hazmat suits in the nearest shop buying chocolate bars.
As also mentioned. R0 is the unmitigated reproduction rate. Viruses like Rhinovirus are less susceptible to mitigation measures
Chart predates covid. Rhinovirus is non enveloped virus. Soap breaks down coating on enveloped viruses such as SAR-2_CoV and Influenza. They are also more susceptible to sanitiser and changes in temperature and PH
My daughter's class all sent home today for 10 days after 3 positive cases in the class. Gonna be a very disruptive year if they'll all be sent home like this.
That's not exactly what the quote said, it said that rhinovirus infection may reduce severity and disease burden, so it might make you less infectious.
Any symptomatic infection is likely to repel people in the current environment.
I believe that NPHET are to meet this week in advance of next Monday and they may have something to say about this. The numbers out are disproportionate to the numbers of cases.
Wow 30,000 tests done in a single day ! No wonder it sounds like Ireland's testing capacity is coming under strain at such a huge number, a bit late now to do anything really, only had 16 months to ramp it up. Need a bit of snake oil as back up i think like the rest of Europe.
What happens in this situation will teacher provide online teaching? Presume if teacher vaccinated does not have to isolate when child in class positive.
Because every parent I know is testing their child because they all have the sniffles!! And it's not for fear that they might actually have covid, it's so they can say definitively no, they don't have covid, and send them back in.And that's before you even get near the ones who are potential close contacts, who are also getting tested.We have created a ridiculous situation, the test centres are clogged up with kids getting "just in case" tests.One of the main points of all of those restrictions last year was to keep schools open, and now everyone is vaccinated and thousands of kids are sitting at home.We are beginning to head to a slightly crazy place on this.
I will hold my hands up and say that after my primary school aged son came home from school last week sick I took him to be tested so I could send him to school and his extra curricular activities this week. I knew it was a cold but what else can I do other then send him up to his room for isolation every time he gets a cold this winter. He missed enough school the last 18 months.
Going by what Tony Holohan put on his twitter timeline yesterday I can't see them changing their advice about isolating with symptoms anyway.
why though, are peoples schools really not eltting them in with a cold? never heard of that
There are some schools saying don't come to school with a runny nose. Now if I didn't send my child to school with a runny nose (or sent all the children home in my class with a runny nose), they'd miss a ridiculous amount of school. So it's just not feasible to ask parents, teachers or children to do that.
Two weeks in and it sounds like total chaos.
I drove past a test centre on Monday and it was absolutely crazy. I never saw anything like the queues.
we had symptoms since school started back but I didn’t send for testing as were mild. Just kept out for a day to monitor.
So surprise, surprise, Irish Tines reporting a 48% increase in a week in number of primary school children who had tested positive.
I hope some parents who are complaining about the inconvenience of their child being kept out of school are ashamed of themselves.
It is absolutely ripping through primary schools.
Somewhat self inflicted chaos though. The school appears to have chosen to do its own contact tracing. Or is this response somehow mandated by the DfE, unions or whoever?
My kids secondary school, by contrast, is leaving it all to the HSE, and there is zero disruption.
Now most of the secondary school kids are at least partially vaccinated, and all of them are masked and reasonably well separated (single desks) so it's not a fair comparison.
But I wonder whether there will be pressure coming from primary school parents on school management to be a little less reactive, i.e. let it rip. I think I might be in favour of this if my kids were younger.
Mohawk, you can't be blamed.It's an impossible situation to be put in.We know as parents that mostly it IS just colds, but because of what's been thrown at us for the last 18 months and probably because we don't want to be that person who brings it into a class, we haven't any choice.They won't accept antigen testing and there is no other option.A child's cold could last a week if not longer, and if the alternative is leaving them at home perfectly healthy but with a mild cough, or coughing the odd time, what else are you supposed to do? We are only doing what we are told at this point.
Let it rip.
Only way out of this madness.
Kids are fine.
Why would they be ashamed? World has moved on, can't stay home forever. Let it rip
My daughter's entire class has been sent home for 10 days after a couple of positive cases. They all are considered close contacts in the class and all must go for tests according to HSE tracing. If a child doesn't go for a test they must stay at home for 14 days. No wonder the testing regime is overwhelmed.
Yeah teacher is providing work to do at home with a zoom call for the class each morning while they are at home. Absolutely farcical situation.
Just saw in Canada that close contacts with no symptoms are still allowed to attend school but must isolate outside of school. Might be an idea here.
That is ridiculous..how on earth does anyone police that? Either isolate or don't isolate.
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