It's not. I've been on O'Connell st. thousands of times in the dark over the last few years. My wife walks home on it every day, sometimes late. Calling it "a no go area" is a laugh. Calm down, stop with the hysteria, you don't know what a no go area is.
yeah but it's not dangerous is what I mean, my 50kg ex gf used to walk the length of it after work every day often at night
No its not dangerous but hardly a nice street to walk down. It used to be dangerous when McGraths was open mind you.
I wouldn't say O'Connell St is a no go after dark but it is a kip 24/7. Would love to see it get a major overhaul and a lot of investment. Same with quays. The Liffey should be a focal point but the streets either side need an overhaul.
Have you ever traveled to Mayo for a match? Plenty of Dubs have and plenty have done exactly as you have described in Castlebar and Westport.
There's no way 80k+ people descend on Castlebar or Westport and reap the havoc that's reaped on Drumcondra. Not a hope.
I'd say the only unlivable issue are the sky high rents for a city the size of Manchester, and probably not even that.
If you want to see real drug problems go to Canada, or even worse some parts of the US.
You're hitting the nail on the head there tinytobe. Similar population, although Dublin is a far nicer coastal city the rents are seriously problematic, twice the cost of Manchester.
I always liked Dublin, or everything but the rents, the attitude of landlords, and the adverse attitude to high rise developments. In Dublin I learned that a building called "tower" is often only a tree stump. The high rent issue produces a lot of transient populations, people coming and going, accepting jobs offers at Microsoft or Facebook, or Google, and leaving at the earliest convenience where they don't have to repay the relocation fees.
Crime isn't that bad in Dublin compared to other cities. Yes, there is drug crime around, it might be higher than one might notice, but if one isn't involved in these things one wouldn't notice.....
Manchester isn't actually that bad if one is looking for an alternative to Dublin or London. Also the coast is near, same as Liverpool, the Yorkshire Dales, the Peak District the Lake District. Wales is also within driving distance. Manchester has a decent size airport, fast train links to London, and properties, no matter if houses or flats are affordable for a salary with a couple of years of experience. There are two decent football teams to chose from as well. People are also friendlier than in London and the South East of England.
Manchester can be very rough though. Also has the worst parts of Engand in it that you see everywhere. Endless Greggs, Pret a Mangers etc. And the food is abysmal. Great fun on a night out though.
Look at the GDP per capita of both cities. Dublin is twice that of Manchester.
Fair point.
That's not what I was saying, but you know that. I've seen plenty of Dublin fans fighting in Castlebar and Westport, pissing everywhere and generally acting the maggot. Seen plenty of Dublin fans doing the same in Drumcondra.
However, the majority of Dublin fans I've met down here and in Drumcondra are sound out.
Same as the large majority of culchie fans visiting Croker, but you don't need to acknowledge that for us to know its true.
Live in Drumcondra for a while and you'll change your tune.
there is a different level of undesirables in Manchester that I hope we will never have here
Home bred UTD supporters ?
Never been to Manchester but I saw a doc about homeless people there all mad out of it on Spice, that weird synthetic weed stuff that I wouldn't recommend ever smoking! It's almost as if all cities have their problems.
I hear you. Some places in the UK are like that.
Only what I was wondering is how come Manchester can build high rises, and Dublin can't.
Liverpool is horrible. The city centre pubs are really rough. Women walking around with their hair half done is some weird thing over there.
In know that the UK has bad places but I've heard that Liverpool is better now than it used to be. Apparently the Isle of Sheppey in England is bad.
Na, City fans
Any people still say it's not a problem....
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/viral-video-of-bottles-thrown-on-busy-dublin-street-provokes-outrage/ar-AAOWOpo?li=BBr5HCU
Well if one video of an incident sparks outrage online, it can’t be that common an occurrence can it? Otherwise there’d be a load of videos of similar incidents everyday.
I read an article from thejournal that a youth was assaulted by by about 20 other males at Parnell St Luas station last night.
The Irish Examiner reported that the Luas driver had put the situation under control. Well done that man. He was very brave to stop this worrying incident. It's been reported by one of the passengers from the article below that one of the males who fled the scene at Parnell St was carrying a butcher's knife. F*cking hell. That is f*cking disturbing.
This is the type of worrying trend that needs to be stamped out in Dublin for good. The Guards were called in to stop this incident from getting worse. But there is no form of proper deterrent involved afterwards once the scumbags involved in getting caught are not going to be properly punished for their violent behavior.
Is this the actual reality we want to be living from now on while we live around the city & the suburbs?
Parnell st. isn't in the suburbs. But, it's unacceptable. Transport police & Metro police needed in the city. Have you lobbied your local TD on these issues?
Yeah, and I don't know why anyone would spend a small fortune to live in Stoneybatter - I've never seen such an amount of trash there one Saturday morning - and this was two years before the pandemic..
Mullingar is perfectly nice (and I'm not from there..)
The quays area from O'Connell St to Heuston needs a total revamp. How hard can that be? Dublin has a lot of nice suburbs, mainly by the coast. I'm not that gone on the north inner city, though, nor on the West side of Dublin generally.
Pluses of dublin:
Range of eating, drinking, entertainment, shopping/services and sporting options, public facilities better, esp transport options
Not hard to see why anyone could choose to value the above over the pluses of living elsewhere
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