Not an attack.
I don't ignore what I see as a racist comment Brendi.
Calling you out to explain why you first characterised the poster as 'not intelligent' then referred to them as 'sahib'?
If there is an innocent explanation, fire away.
She is telling the truth….so what’s the problem?
If you want to discuss FG then bring it to FG thread….
You would say that.
Others disagree. That is what is being discussed.
If you have issue report the posts for being off topic.
Heh heh…….. Francie…..even I had to laugh at that attempt
Maybe you don't notice it, but it has no other purpose in your post but to demean or talk down to the poster. Why else would you throw in a random Indian word like that?
I didn't think it was defensible and clearly it isn't.
Check the rabbits Francie……. Lads have sense.
History says it. Not me, I just repeating what the history books say, so is Heather
History says what?
I think you should talk to the rabbits above.
The 'I'll leave you to it' point has been reached.
it’s a standard rabbit hole from you Francie, pointless exercise to go down and 100 posts and you posting snide remarks. If you are unclear of history then read it.
I’d say most of Sinn Féin’s supporters have been on government benefits at once in there life. Sorry to sound snobby but it’s true.
I'll ask again...it's all I can do.
What 'history' are you referring to here? What does it 'say'?
You can read the history. If you are uncertain which history then why are you complaining heather has it wrong?
Enjoy your evening.
We were discussing the history when you butted in.
As another poster said, Michael Collins was dead for 10 years before FG was even founded. But here we have FG claiming him and airbrushing out the man who was actually their leader and one of their founding fathers because they are embarrassed about his fascist leanings.
That is 'rewriting' history, which is what Heather was criticising SF for today. Th people with a problem with the 'history' of this country seem to be Heather and yourself.
Had Limerick in a work pool thing, so having a thoroughly enjoyable evening thanks.
Afaik he was claimed as noone (FF in particular) wanted anything to do with him at the time as he was pro-treaty......it was well into tbe 80s before civil war politics really cooled
Theres certain shops/undertakers down where my ould lad is from,whose customers are still divided roughly along civil war lines
Given some of stuff collins pulled and overseen,it really serves to highlight utter hyprcrisy of FG critising the pira
Why?
How many women and children did Michael Collins kill?
Are you honestly this unaware of what the old ira used be upto??....a much more ruthless organisation than pira
Afaik it was something like 120 disappeared,of which roughly half been recovered.....several ric officers killes post ceasefire
By end of woi,its activities almost mirrored all of subsequent subversive campaigns,commerial bombings (collins personally was involved in the adbanoned liverpool dock burning plot afaik)......if that lad been a provo,the troubles death total would have run into 10s of thousamds
i though they were the same thing? 🤣🤣🤣
its easy for you tho fit things into your narrative when you make up history as you go along
You didn't answer the question. How many women and children did Michael Collins kill?
They are the same thing?
Like by all means,if yous wish to include deaths from 1920s and the 40s and 50s in an all inclusive number,i have no objection with this (same as how all deaths here attributed to british must also include famine victims)
What part of history do you feel i has made up??
Personally or overseen as a leading mamber of the ira?
ha ha you cant even keep your delusions straight kid
Agh yes....accuse someone of making up history (ie lying)....asked for an example...resort to simply abusing the poster
Is an amnesty for those who only killed adults being proposed?
Vomit inducing hypocrisy now to cover for FG activity.
The good 'terrorist' bad 'terrorist' hypocrisy really never gets old.
your persistent and nasty false claim that the sf that exist today have a direct link to the sf that was founded in 1905 is a blatant lie blazz , its proven with links and facts , your feeling and beliefs are not relevant apart from to fuel your petty little out rage .
your not here to discuss or debate anything just to try to force your false narrative out there ,
Are we judging based on number of murders now? Is there a cap were hero becomes villain and do you have a link?
Sure relax, Collins has more in common with the IRA of any time and Sinn Fein than he does with born from fascism, pro common wealth Fine Gael.
Plain as day why the power swap defenders have to fight so assiduously to not allow modern SF be associated with the struggle for independence.
The, 'did Michael Collins kill any women and children?' question being the classic example of Irish political violence cakeism.
The Provisional Sinn Fein as they used to be known had nothing to do with the struggle for independence. That should be the end of the conversation but it's not. The fact they got created in the 1970's would be a hint to most people
Created from what?
Or are you suggesting that it was a brand new organisation?
The 'provisional' tag after the split was invented by the media to avoid confusion and it stuck
It has no other significance other than that.
Those who split and who now form SF held to the abstentionist principle that goes back to the party's origin.
As clear a link as can be IMO.
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