Good point. They had roughly 350k cases, and 8k deaths, so worse overall than us, but not too dissimilar. Delta is starting here alright, cases have doubled, from 100 to 200 a day, so we'll see if masks get re introduced...
Israel looking into boosters for those first jabbed. Protection against serious problems appear to be still high.
you'll be over the worst of it within 7 days.
then if you're anything like me, you'll get a big sinussy (if thats a word 😀)
The best way i could describe it, is similar to a hangover from the days when smoking was allowed in the pubs.
you'll have a lingering cough, but nothing dramatic for 2-3 weeks, and personally i had headaches, on and off for about 6 weeks. Also drinking, i just couldnt do it, ok, slight exaggeration, if i had anything more than 3 cans, i had a rotten hangover. But again, that was only within 6 weeks of infection.
All perfect now thankfully. Hopefully you'll be the same
Bad numbers in Spain
Another drop in cases in the UK. Reporting 24,950.
Any spikes from Suffolk yet.
It's actually a phenomenal drop and no real moaning about the lack of tests either, this looks very promising
Just comparing Isreal (orange) and Ireland (blue), cases and deaths.
Deaths are the solid line and cases are the thin dotted line. Looks like Israel is seeing a similar rise in cases as Ireland and, also like Ireland, not yet seeing a corresponding rise in deaths.
Do you thrive on bad news brickster69? Almost each and every one of your posts on here follow the same theme - selective data from a country currently experiencing a spike/increase in cases. I know this is the Delta thread, but what exactly are you trying to achieve with the constant bad news? I find it intriguing that you are not posting news stories from the UK anymore but, then again, they seem to be poistive developments..
Less bickering .We need (evaluated) good news and bad from anywhere as this is still a global pandemic.
If you think that news from Spain is not worthy of mention (or actually good) tell us.
Where's the bickering? I'm simply making an observation on that user's posting history/style. We are all entitled to express an opinion on here, and post whatever news stories we consider to be relevant. However, when one such user continually posts the same type of news, whilst seemingly ignoring other developments, the motivations should be questioned (apologies, maybe that's the role of a mod). Anyway, any one of us could easily do a quick search and find plenty of negative stories on Delta. I fail to see how randomly dropping one of these such stories into this thread every now and then, with very little commentary and/or analysis of said story, helps to foster debate.
Spain don't seem to report weekends, so they get 3 days of cases on a Monday. Maybe the OP should have mentioned that?
We've been here before with Kermit just link dumping and being called out on it.
Some good news. It appears that Pfizer is still very efficient at keeping serious infections and deaths low for those that have had both doses bases on the reports out of Israel & UK.
i must be getting ideas of importance but in my terminology I was the OP** in this thread.It is probably the only reason I would be calling out anybody here for attacking the poster and not the poster's argument (if it exists).
I agree link dumping is no better than spamming the thread .
**Thought OP meant "original poster" and referred to the opening post of a thread
More good news as Ireland is about to overtake the UK on vaccines 🙌
More good news from the UK. Another further drop in Delta cases to 23,511.
Very large increase in deaths ,though (131 vs 14 yesterday and 28 before that)
Some delayed,or mis- reporting issue perhaps?
Today's ages of people who passed away. No numbers on vax status but 85% were 60 or older and only 1 under 40.
All the variants are effectively working to speed up spread within the unvaccinated, they are having only minor impacts on those who are vaccinated.
On the vaccinating children thread, there are quite a few comments about how people are waiting a year or two to decide - I don't think they're going to get that time, it's likely that Delta (or some future variant) will burn through the unvaccinated population very quickly. I don't really see how schools avoid mass outbreaks this year, Delta appears to be a different beast entirely to what we have seen previously when it comes to the speed of indoor spread.
But if infections in children do not lead to any adverse outcomes (as generally seems to be the case), why is there a need for vaccination? If it's to get herd immunity, fair enough, but we can also get there via natural immunity.
In the short-term it certainly affects kids a lot less, but I don't think anyone knows what the long-term impacts are of getting childhood Covid. Hopefully it's nothing, but we don't know for certain. At the same time, people are saying on that thread that they won't give their kids the vaccine "because they don't know the long-term impact". There's a mental disconnect there, and an assumption that getting Covid means sniffles for kids and not a lot more.
To me this is why this is not a simple decision, and it's one I generally am going to trust the experts on - not easy for them either, but they have a lot more experience and data to work off.
I agree to a point. But no one knows the long term impacts of Covid on any age group, due to it being a novel virus. But the general consensus appears that the long term effects are not a major concern. Even the dreaded long covid seems to be somewhat overblown and the cynic in me thinks it's being used as a stick to beat younger groups into taking the vaccine. I'm in no way anti-vax or anything, I followed the vaccine developments with great interest and was extremely grateful to get mine, but at least I had the freedom of choice. I think there is a whole moral and ethical debate about giving the vaccines to relatively-safe children, when we know there are some legitimate issues related to vaccinating younger age cohorts, whilst also denying that same vaccine to genuinely vulnerable people in low-income countries.
Hopefully a turnaround for Delta cases in the UK :
Gottlieb thinks there's a lot more Delta in the US than the test figures suggest, and "we should be through this" in 2 to 3 weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2TqAmd1D8s
CDC update on Delta and mask wearing guidance.
Hopefully he’s right.
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Israel have voted to give a third dose of Pfizer to those most at risk.
Internal CDC slides on Delta were released, and there has been some good analysis. In short:
https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1420929102253641728
Uruguay, Indonesia & Chile all starting to give 3rd doses
