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Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

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Thread 1 - Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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thesandeman

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Do kegs go off that quickly? Would have presumed a keg of like a can. Fine if unopened.

3-4 months for the Macro beers. You won't get much more than a month out of craft as most don't contain preservatives.

Tenzor07

bladespin wrote: »

Meh, could fly to Brummy with work and back same day, be grand.

No good for the staff, they can't do that...

Unelected officials on €150,000+ making decisions to keep people out of work without having a clue about how business works.... I mean expecting young unvaccinated staff to go serve vaccinated and unvaccinated indoors and outdoors...
Hotels open for a number of weeks now for indoor dining and no Delta outbreaks..

Ireland the outlier time after time, destroying the economy to keep case numbers low...

Timistry

At this stage it will be 2022 before the pubs open

saabsaab

ShooterSF wrote: »

Jesus no! Have you seen the threads where people were going mad cause someone 38 in Cork got jabbed and they're in Dublin, 40 and not. And thats just to protect yourself from covid, never mind if you added access to indoor drinking onto it. There'd be killings Plus you probably now need a dedicated door person as you're essentially carding everyone coming in like a nightclub. And I haven't had one yet but assume a vaccine cert only has a name on it, no photograph, if so then all these 40+ have to start carrying passports, licenses or age cards again (well for the first time for most of that age group).

It would promote taking the jab. Anyway it won't suit every pub but I've heard that in some areas all over 18 are vaccinated now.

HBC08

giveitholly wrote: »

Lads what will happen to all the kegs that have been delivered to pubs/restaurants? Will the breweries take them back or have they a long shelf life?

Yes the breweries that them back.

bladespin

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Just go up the North or book into a hotel, the Delta variant can't get you there, or just go to a house party completely unregulated can't get you there either..

Meh, could fly to Brummy with work and back same day, be grand.

Tenzor07

bladespin wrote: »

This is madness, what has Ireland done that has made it more of a risk here than anywhere else?

Just go up the North or book into a hotel, the Delta variant can't get you there, or just go to a house party completely unregulated can't get you there either..

bladespin

This is madness, what has Ireland done that has made it more of a risk here than anywhere else?

FlubberJones

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well, more or less official now.... Pushed out again until the 19th...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/indoor-dining-delayed-until-july-19-while-vaccine-cert-system-is-developed-40591472.html

FFS this ****ing country is a joke.... If travel gets derailed on the 19th there should be a MASSIVE protest. Its simply unbelievable at this stage

Tenzor07

Well, more or less official now.... Pushed out again until the 19th...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/indoor-dining-delayed-until-july-19-while-vaccine-cert-system-is-developed-40591472.html

Tenzor07

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

["NPHET presented some stark warnings to Government last night - the most severe of which predicted hundreds of thousands of cases between July and September and more than 2,000 deaths as a result of Covid-19.".

Sacrificing Hospitality/Tourism for some doomsday worst case scenario that may never happen is just criminal... Looks like Holohan has turned the fear factor up to 13 on the dial meaning spineless FFFG won't dare stand up to him..

And the other idea of the Vacc'd only indoors? To be served food and drink by young unvaccinated staff??

Once MMartin bends to the latest diktat from NPHET it will mean that you won't be sitting in your favorite pub this side of Christmas!

[Deleted User]

A lot more people are about to get pissed off with the "who you know" roll-out now too with this coming.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1409739295053713408

is_that_so

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

GP's being allowed to hand them out to whoever they like while other older people wait.

Some GPs handing them out to their patients, based on HSE protocols, largely based on the do not waste mandate, is hardly evidence of the dysfunctional system that you claim. MVCs are following the age groups and timings.

[Deleted User]

is_that_so wrote: »

350K shots last week, similar enough this week, over 40% fully vaccinated, heading for 60% with at least one dose so yeah "somewhere between a joke and criminal".

GP's being allowed to hand them out to whoever they like while other older people wait.

is_that_so

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Can't blame them in fairness. The roll out has been somewhere between a joke and criminal.

350K shots last week, similar enough this week, over 40% fully vaccinated, heading for 60% with at least one dose so yeah "somewhere between a joke and criminal".

Pintman Paddy Losty

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0629/1231914-cabinet-hospitality-reopening-delay/

"NPHET presented some stark warnings to Government last night - the most severe of which predicted hundreds of thousands of cases between July and September and more than 2,000 deaths as a result of Covid-19."

Looks like they're delaying to introduce a vaccinated only indoor dining rule...

My own feeling is, that they will use this as an excuse to delay as they "develop the system". Indoor dining will be open in August for a few weeks at most before the seasonality aspect kicks in and were in another winter lockdown.

[Deleted User]

ShooterSF wrote: »

Jesus no! Have you seen the threads where people were going mad cause someone 38 in Cork got jabbed and they're in Dublin, 40 and not. And thats just to protect yourself from covid, never mind if you added access to indoor drinking onto it. There'd be killings Plus you probably now need a dedicated door person as you're essentially carding everyone coming in like a nightclub. And I haven't had one yet but assume a vaccine cert only has a name on it, no photograph, if so then all these 40+ have to start carrying passports, licenses or age cards again (well for the first time for most of that age group).

Can't blame them in fairness. The roll out has been somewhere between a joke and criminal.

Pintman Paddy Losty

Do kegs go off that quickly? Would have presumed a keg of like a can. Fine if unopened.

thesandeman

b0nk1e wrote: »

The small businessmen who have bought perishable food and drink will have to absorb the financial loss after the Government reneged on its reopening date for the third time. For many - particularly small rural pubs, often the single social space in a village - the financial loss will lead to bankruptcy and the closure of the business.

In fairness to Heineken, Diageo and pretty much every other supplier they all agreed to take back everything during the lockdowns.
They even gave credit for part used kegs.
They'll make it back in their own way but they can't be blamed for much in that regard.
Certain insurance companies on the other hand........

ShooterSF

b0nk1e wrote: »

The small businessmen who have bought perishable food and drink will have to absorb the financial loss after the Government reneged on its reopening date for the third time. For many - particularly small rural pubs, often the single social space in a village - the financial loss will lead to bankruptcy and the closure of the business.

The second time the Government banned bars from reopening, owners had less than a hundred hours notice that the reopening date was going to be reneged upon.

Are you sure? I know with the first lock down suppliers worked with bars to take a lot of stock back or partially refund costs to help them out. It is not in the interest of Diageo or Heineken for the local rural pub to go out of business that's for sure.
Although the last time, the notice was pathetic I'll agree on that! Anyway all in the air till tomorrow!

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giveitholly wrote: »

Lads what will happen to all the kegs that have been delivered to pubs/restaurants? Will the breweries take them back or have they a long shelf life?

The small businessmen who have bought perishable food and drink will have to absorb the financial loss after the Government reneged on its reopening date for the third time. For many - particularly small rural pubs, often the single social space in a village - the financial loss will lead to bankruptcy and the closure of the business.

The second time the Government banned bars from reopening, owners had less than a hundred hours notice that the reopening date was going to be reneged upon.

giveitholly

Lads what will happen to all the kegs that have been delivered to pubs/restaurants? Will the breweries take them back or have they a long shelf life?

ShooterSF

saabsaab wrote: »

Sounds familiar. People don't listen. It would be a good idea to open a Covid friendly pub now indoors. Vaccinated only, you could have it for over 40's anyone else has to prove their vaccination.

Jesus no! Have you seen the threads where people were going mad cause someone 38 in Cork got jabbed and they're in Dublin, 40 and not. And thats just to protect yourself from covid, never mind if you added access to indoor drinking onto it. There'd be killings

Plus you probably now need a dedicated door person as you're essentially carding everyone coming in like a nightclub. And I haven't had one yet but assume a vaccine cert only has a name on it, no photograph, if so then all these 40+ have to start carrying passports, licenses or age cards again (well for the first time for most of that age group).

saabsaab

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Won't happen here, guaranteed.... The Israeli's did it early but their society is different.

Pity.

Tenzor07

saabsaab wrote: »

Sounds familiar. People don't listen. It would be a good idea to open a Covid friendly pub now indoors. Vaccinated only, you could have it for over 40's anyone else has to prove their vaccination.

Won't happen here, guaranteed.... The Israeli's did it early but their society is different.

saabsaab

pjohnson wrote: »

The Overlook Hotel.

Sounds familiar. People don't listen. It would be a good idea to open a Covid friendly pub now indoors. Vaccinated only, you could have it for over 40's anyone else has to prove their vaccination.

pjohnson

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

That's disgraceful. What was the name of the Hotel?

The Overlook Hotel.

Tazz T

Andrew00 wrote: »

Indoor to open on the

5th: 6/1
19th: 15/8
26th: 11/10
Any Later: 10/1

That's how I'd price it up

What price will you give me on they keep putting it back until cases are high enough not to open at all. Same as last year.

[Deleted User]

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

That's disgraceful. What was the name of the Hotel?

I cant remember.

dominatinMC

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

That's disgraceful. What was the name of the Hotel?

Fawlty Towers