hmmm wrote: » The data is a bit unclear at the moment as to how much risk there is of vaccinated people transmitting Delta. Being vaccinated you're largely protected yourself, but they don't want you wandering around potentially spreading it. I can understand why they're being very cautious, and also they're under a lot of pressure dealing with something which is very new and not very well understood.
Stheno wrote: » Takes 3 weeks to confirm genome sequencing If you'd told me a year ago I would know the term genome sequencing I'd have thought you were insane
Deusexmachina wrote: » Spare me the fear. If you are fully vaccinated you are very safe. If you even have had one jab you are extremely unlikely to be hospitalised with Covid. Nearly 4 million of us have been vaccinated.
Deusexmachina wrote: » Spare me the fear. If you are fully vaccinated you are very safe. If you even have had one jab you are extremely unlikely to be hospitalised with Covid. Nearly 4 million of us have been vaccinated. How about an abundance of positivity, joy and optimism instead of this abundance of caution we so love in Ireland. We need to get back to normal life.
Deusexmachina wrote: » We need to get back to normal life.
Tenger wrote: » It's been a known possibility for months now. Hence the mask mandate outdoors in most US states. This thing isn't black&white. The "15 minute close proximity" guide was just that. All it takes it a few droplets in the air as you pass a stranger in the street to pass the infection. In China last May/June there was a study on a guy getting infected on a bus AFTER the carrier got off. He had expelled droplets inside the bus. Thats the entire rationale for mask wearing in close proximity of others. "Outdoors is safer" means it hot a lower risk, (due to wind and sunshine) NOT that's its got no risk. Irish Time 4-5 days ago stated 30% of Irish PCR tests are sequenced for variants. And that 20% of those are Delta. No indication however what the criteria for sequencing is or if it is random.
Tenger wrote: » Irish Time 4-5 days ago stated 30% of Irish PCR tests are sequenced for variants. And that 20% of those are Delta. No indication however what the criteria for sequencing is or if it is random.
Nphet warns Delta variant could infect thousands per day in August leading to a ‘peak of deaths’
The modelling for the Delta variant in Ireland shows shocking rises in the worst-case model, which one informant described as “grim and alarming” and another said would be “like an invasion.” Fatalities and hospitalisations will approach, but not meet, the chaos and harrowing caseload seen in January, ministers are warned.
Singapore’s COVID plan offers pathway out of lockdowns
We could do worse than follow the example of the city state of Singapore, with a population of 5.7 million and about 20-30 cases every day, which has just set out such a plan. With enough people vaccinated, COVID-19 will be managed like other endemic diseases such as the flu. Last week three ministers on Singapore’s taskforce on COVID-19 outlined their government’s transition to a new normal. The trio said priority in the next few months will be to prepare Singapore for life with COVID-19 as a recurring, controllable disease.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Two very different headlines
hmmm wrote: » That's because they are talking about different things. We know that once we have enough people vaccinated we will have to live with this. We have a timing problem with Delta which was unfortunate.
Micky 32 wrote: » giving our freedoms back. Personally i have a plan B. I’m giving it until the end of the year and if nothing changes i’m buying a house in Florida in January/February.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » One thing that will be of concern to those who are older /very medically vulnerable, is that many , like me were prioritised to be vaccinated and was given AZ last March . Got my second the other day . People far less vulnerable were given the more effective Pfizer . Had been hoping that the 2nd dose would be something rather than AZ, but I couldn’t risk waiting .
The worst-case scenario would potentially see almost 700,000 cases of the virus over July, August and September, with as many as 2,170 deaths as the Delta variant becomes dominant. The most optimistic projection would see 81,000 cases and 165 deaths. There is an expectation that Nphet will seek a delay of several weeks in reopening indoor hospitality.
agoodpunt wrote: » worth a look its the delta varianthttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/coronavirus-delta-variant-slams-shut-the-reopening-of-israel-to-world/news-story/f02e7b028a898acb2b72db95e56a2385
Unicorn Milk Latte wrote: » Annual number of people killed from gunshots in Florida is over 2,700. So, not only do you gain the freedom to infect others indiscriminately, you also gain the freedom to shoot and kill them. Or, of course, the freedom to get shot - that chance is much higher than being killed from Covid in Ireland, even in worst case scenarios. In Ireland, 'freedom' means not allowing people to infect or shoot others.
Woody79 wrote: » You have 2 doses of a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic. Younger people will now be offered AZ in the weeks ahead. Be grateful, its good for your mental health. There will always be people better off and worse than yourself. Its called life.
porta wrote: » You obviously have no understanding of ‘vulnerable’. If you did, you wouldn’t be giving a dismissive “that’s life” reply. A healthy 35 year old who gets Covid has a very good chance of a complete recovery. A 35 year old Type-1 diabetic who gets Covid has a very good chance of winding up seriously ill or even dead. Vulnerable people are very grateful to receive vaccines as part of what is turning out to be a (mostly) successful vaccine rollout. They are also conscious that by receiving the AZ, the lesser protection is being given to those with the weakest natural defences. I suggest that developing some understanding and empathy would be great for your mental health.
Woody79 wrote: » Real world studies say AZ is just as good as any MRNA.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Against Delta?
Deleted User wrote: » Got a link by any chance about the increased risk to people with Type 1 diabetes but no other illnesses? Just wondering because you equate 2 different risks and I doubt the 99.5%+ non-fatal rate for healthy people with Covid will be matched up with the death rate for people with Type 1 diabetes with Covid.
Goldengirl wrote: » https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30272-2/fulltext How many do ya want ? 100s more on the page that came from ! Very highrisk, as in group 7 or group 4 if not well controlled .
pc7 wrote: » If they are ‘assuming’ Delta does that mean the % of Delta we are hearing is a guesstimate?
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Just an update, my relative found it difficult to navigate the Covid helpline - they kept getting referred back to the HSE website for information (which states they don't need to self-isolate or even get tested). So I decided to ring the helpline myself. Spoke to a very helpful lady who checked the situation for me and yes, you do need to self-isolate if you are a close contact of someone who has tested positive for a 'variant of concern' even if you are fully vaccinated. This is all news to me.
dominatinMC wrote: » Yes. Look at the latest PHE report for evidence of this. Both vaccines >90% protection against severe illness.
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