Stheno wrote: » Evidence coming out that its no as transmissible as thought and 2 dose vaccines are more effective than thoughthttps://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1408406649224589317?s=19
NIMAN wrote: » I understand, but why can't fully vaccinated people travel, as they can in the rest of the EU? We are the only member not using the digital green cert app. .....
Goldengirl wrote: » It can be seen from the UK data is that while cases and hospitalisations are rising , happily the vaccines are working and we just need to get as many people vaccinated fully before the Delta variant takes over . I want to make it clear that is and has been my position all along. *My post last night was to make it clear that it is a variant of concern , as it is all over the world at the present time , with cases rising in many countries , and not just a conspiracy on the part of NPHET and the government to keep pubs and restaurants closed to indoor dining as was being claimed by a raft of posters here .
Donald Trump wrote: » Alpha, beta, gamma, delta Lambada
brickster69 wrote: » Lambada variant thread nexthttps://metro.co.uk/2021/06/25/new-covid-variant-found-in-uk-after-tearing-through-south-america-14829191/#share-item-14829157-253
gozunda wrote: » Link? Btw Is that a reply to my comment? I think what the previous poster was trying to say was that fewer people overall are being hospitalised who contract the Delta variant as was the situation with regard to the previous Kent (UK) variant I dont think the data shows that?
"We had 200 lambda infections in December," Tsukayama said. "By the end of March, it made up half of all samples taken in Lima. Now, three months later, we are looking at more than 80% of all infections nationwide. Lambda has become the dominant variant in Peru in a very short period of time."
bob mcbob wrote: » This article provides details on the status of Delta in Scotland where although cases rates are soaring but they are mainly among the unvaccinated young (under 30's). The hospitalisation rates are still relatively low and Scotland is still planning on re-opening in the coming months. It seems that the WHO have revised their guidelines -The Scottish government's new strategy reflects the latest guidance from the World Health Organization (WHO) on public health and social measures to tackle Covid. In this document, the WHO says the focus can shift from case numbers to hospital admissions and intensive care rates in countries where the most vulnerable are fully vaccinated - a position Scotland will be in by next week, according to the first minister.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57581952
Ballynally wrote: » Well, we can go back and forth with what the data indicates and it would be quite easy to poke holes in your arguments, but you clearly have no understanding about numbers and the relationship between them from a statistical point of view. I dont blame you for your ignorance and ill leave it at that. Suffice to say that your last line is clearly an indication of your stupidity. You might not agree w my view, or my logic but please do not insult me by saying it doesnt rely on it or data. I don't mind disagreements but i won't engage in a discussion w an unworthy opponent. It is actually not that easy to read data in a proper context and you need special skills for that. Most people read a graph and jump to conclusions. Or even use it to get a point across, disregarding other data that change the equation. Happens all the time. Most people are unaware of the complexity involved. Maybe i shouldnt be on this forum. It has been rather unproductive so far..
Tyrone212 wrote: » UK Attendance to an emergency care department from a total of 92,029 Delta cases 53,822 were unvaccinated 7,235 had received two vaccine doses 190 were admitted to hospital from two doses, with 163 aged 50+ 831 were admitted to hospital unvaccinated, 695 were aged under 50
Red Silurian wrote: » Fairly sure it's the same as what we would call a "testing centre"
Deeper Blue wrote: » Do you know what the story is with "Attendance to an emergency care department"? Does that mean they tested positive while in hospital?
Bit cynical wrote: » And, of course, fewer of them per confirmed case require hospitalisation in the first place.
Red Silurian wrote: » Correct, because younger people are the ones getting infected with Delta and they don't need as much time in hospital to recover
gozunda wrote: » Preliminary data on Hospitalisations from herehttps://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1513 From other data - it would appear that resulting hospitalisations are of a shorter duration than previous waves of infection.
Are covid-19 hospital admissions increasing? Yes. The number of new cases of covid-19 has been rising in the UK for the past few weeks, and admissions of patients to hospital are following suit. As of 9 June the number of people in hospital each day with covid-19 exceeded 1000, after having fallen to the hundreds in the middle of May after the previous wave.
hmmm wrote: » This is good data, and I'm sure out government will be looking at the UK. The only caveat I'd have is that the exponential point of the case curve is fairly recent, and it will take a week or so to see how that translates into hospitalisations. We should know in a week to ten days what the hospitalisation risk is from Delta, but that doesn't really leave enough time for businesses to prepare.
gozunda wrote: » What struck me with regard to the tracing in that case was that the driver was found to have had extremely brief encounters with some of those found to be subsequently infected. Was mask wearing in shops, cafes mandated in Sydney at that point?
bob mcbob wrote: » This article provides details on the status of Delta in Scotland where although cases rates are soaring but they are mainly among the unvaccinated young (under 30's). The hospitalisation rates are still relatively low and Scotland is still planning on re-opening in the coming months.
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