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The Delta variant

amandstu

How might this play out?

Apparently cases in England may be doubling every 4.5 days and resultant hospitalizations are said to be possibly between 2 and 3 times more likely that with the Alpha variant.

Only 1% prevalence here at the moment seemingly.

Back of envelope modeling in my sitting room is not reassuring and I am not near to getting my second AstraZeneca jab yet( so 30% protected against symptomatic disease?)

EDIT: Have been corrected in this thread that parts of England (not England as a whole) had cases doubling every 4.5 days

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Hurrache

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Australia will jump on anything to make covid seem super scary and dangerous in order to justify their continued restrictions and being shut off from the world. Strange how it isn't out of control across the entire world if merely passing by someone is enough to become infected. ��

Ah, goalposts moved now to who's scaremongering.

I really do believe the only ones 'scared' or think these stories are scary are the ones who do all the complaining about them. If you don't want to know something, or don't like what you're hearing or reading, there's a really simple solution available.

ceadaoin.

Hurrache wrote: »

Did anyone actually look at the story? All he did was tweet a news story which reported what NSW Health are investigating.

But yeah, it's bizarrely the guy just linking to the story that's scaremongering.

Australia will jump on anything to make covid seem super scary and dangerous in order to justify their continued restrictions and being shut off from the world. Strange how it isn't out of control across the entire world if merely passing by someone is enough to become infected. ðŸ€”

Hurrache

Stheno wrote: »

That lad is known for his scaremongering

Did anyone actually look at the story? All he did was tweet a news story which reported what NSW Health are investigating.

But yeah, it's bizarrely the guy just linking to the story that's scaremongering.

ceadaoin.

Stheno wrote: »

That lad is known for his scaremongering

Oh, hes back.He had gone quiet for a while but I guess the opportunity to whip up hysteria about the Delta variant was too much to resist

dominatinMC

Stheno wrote: »

That lad is known for his scaremongering

That's putting it mildly, he has made a career of out Covid-19.

Ficheall

Stheno wrote: »

That lad is known for his scaremongering

And the news people?
Does seem a bit nuts though...

Stheno

Louche Lad wrote: »

Scary how transmissible Delta is: "they just passed each other in the store—never came into contact."
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1407061226149064706?s=19

That lad is known for his scaremongering

Louche Lad

Scary how transmissible Delta is: "they just passed each other in the store—never came into contact."
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1407061226149064706?s=19

MadYaker

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

Refusing to be abused by NPHET.

Not one member of NPHET has come out and said why 5000 Covid cases a day here would matter if all vulnerable people are vaccinated .

Not one.

We are already seeing this in the UK, thousands and thousands of cases but barely anybody getting ill off it.

This is psychological war and nothing else. Imagine the overtime these lads have taken in the last year on this meal ticket.

Also suits the government as housing demonstrations are banned until at least the Spring.

You come across as a bit of a nutter. Has anyone asked NPHET that specific question? Did they refuse to answer? All vulnerable people are not vaccinated and members of NPHET don’t get paid for being on NPHET. But you seem the type who isn’t particularly concerned with facts. A bizarre post. Maybe go back to Twitter?

brickster69

Probably an important stat he missed off that report was that 95% of people going into hospital come out within 24 hours.

[Deleted User]

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Has the delta variant caused a significant increase in hospitalisations and/or deaths in the UK? It has taken hold over there long enough for the data to show if it has or has not.

Also, I’ve read that one shot of the AZ vaccine is only 33% effective against the Delta variant. What does this mean exactly? Is it 33% effective against contracting the disease? Or 33% effective at stopping severe disease? I’ve read that all vaccines are essentially 100% effective at stopping hospitalisations and deaths.

It's 33% effective against symptomatic illness after 1 dose but 72% against severe disease. At 2 doses it is 60% against symptomatic illness and 92% against severe disease. Bear in mind AZ is a bit of a slow burner so these figures should rise given time after dose 2. With a longer follow up period efficacy rose to 90% against Alpha.

Not really been a fan of Sky News this whole pandemic but credit where it's due this is probably the most accurate assessment of the situation in the UK so far.

https://twitter.com/fact_covid/status/1407279720618676224?s=20

Leftwaffe

Has the delta variant caused a significant increase in hospitalisations and/or deaths in the UK? It has taken hold over there long enough for the data to show if it has or has not.

Also, I’ve read that one shot of the AZ vaccine is only 33% effective against the Delta variant. What does this mean exactly? Is it 33% effective against contracting the disease? Or 33% effective at stopping severe disease? I’ve read that all vaccines are essentially 100% effective at stopping hospitalisations and deaths.

brickster69

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

HSE confirms that 20% of cases over the last week have been sequenced as the Delta variant and it is responsible for some large outbreaks.

It’s here so.

It's everywhere, only way to know how much is mass testing and sequencing.

https://twitter.com/jlspbr/status/1407289073509744640

VonLuck

Hurrache wrote: »

This guy started off similar, had his two shots, and ended up testing positive
https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1406556676057088000?s=19
https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1407052670997835780?s=19

Not the most reassuring! I've been very conscientious over this whole thing and it'd be a shame to catch it now, right before getting vaccinated.

Going for a test this morning. Hopefully it is just a cold but no way to tell without testing.

Basq

Was in Belfast last week for a few days and been feeling pretty poor the last 48 hours or so.

Worst runny nose I've EVER had - check!
Brutal sore throat - check!
Occasional, but not constant, headache - check!

However, no real loss of energy, appetite etc.

Been reading a lot about Delta variant being close to cold and since I registered for vaccine at weekend, I'd rather know if I have it so did a test this afternoon.

I was feeling more sure it would be a negative result until this evening when it's hitting me harder again. Wide awake for the last few hours here so panic is setting in!

Other half has been in Covid ward as a nurse for the last 16 months, and we've both avoided it so far though she's been vaccinated since January.

Hoping for (not so) positive news tomorrow.

Red Silurian

I know a fella who got called by contact tracing last Sunday, and got a positive diagnosis the following Tuesday he was out on Saturday night so figures he knew who gave it to him

But now I'm thinking surely the guy who he was out with had taken a PCR a day before and was awaiting results (or perhaps knew them?) on Saturday night when he went out?

Bad form!

crooked cockney villain

Tenger wrote: »

Being obnoxious feckers you mean?

Refusing to be abused by NPHET.

Not one member of NPHET has come out and said why 5000 Covid cases a day here would matter if all vulnerable people are vaccinated .

Not one.

We are already seeing this in the UK, thousands and thousands of cases but barely anybody getting ill off it.

This is psychological war and nothing else. Imagine the overtime these lads have taken in the last year on this meal ticket.

Also suits the government as housing demonstrations are banned until at least the Spring.

Hurrache

They come at night, mostly. Gob****es in this case though.

Tenger

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

.....
Hopefully in the next few weeks we see a serious change in people refusing to wear masks on buses, trains etc. Whole thing is psychological abuse at this stage and nothing more.
.......

Being obnoxious feckers you mean?

crooked cockney villain

saabsaab wrote: »

Those that haven't jabs could catch this virulent variant and if the numbers are high enough quickly among the younger groups some will become seriously ill or worse. As for suicide from what I have seen it is down.

:pac::pac::pac:

My God what absolute nonsense. Young people should be dropping like flies in the UK by now so?

The government are absolutely lying if they claim suicide is down. This has been the darkest year in modern history. Most have been stripped of our friendships, relationships (in particular the ability to form new ones), our jobs, our incomes, our plans for the future, we have seen Covid related house price increases, the longest lockdown in the Western world, a ruling class that took pleasure in drip feeding us absolute garbage with not a hint of hope when the likes of the UK were promoting Freedom Day last February. 2020 into 2021 was the War on Fun, the War on Happiness. We had politicians gleefully claiming pubs could still be closed three years from now. Martin laughed at a journalist who asked for a pub re opening date, saying he must be thirsty. The abuse we suffered is unprecedented in any other country.

Of course knowing our mob some suicides were probably marked down as a Covid death.

crooked cockney villain

screamer wrote: »

There’s many high risk and 60+ age group not 2nd vacced and worse they got Astra Zeneca.
I don’t see a surge with this delta virus during the summer at least what I mean is a higher number of cases won’t lead to hospitalisation.

So why fear it?

I think for the summer we’ll be ok. But we need to keep vaccinating and we need to get 70% of people fully vacced before October, or we’ll be in trouble. I’m hopeful the vaccination program will outstrip this mutation but we must all keep our distance, wear our masks and wash our hands till then.

:pac: There's just something so servile about all of that. Virtually everyone vulnerable is now protected, who is all that bollix in aid of?

Hopefully in the next few weeks we see a serious change in people refusing to wear masks on buses, trains etc. Whole thing is psychological abuse at this stage and nothing more.

I'll take the vaccine, but if I was a woman under 50 I'd be seriously cautious. We have moved from "the vaccines are safe" to it's worth the risk (nobody is quite willing to point out whether in the UK more perfectly healthy young women have died from Covid or died from the vaccine. It seems nobody wants to touch it)

saabsaab

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

Tony needs to come out and clearly tell us why we need to care about this, otherwise he should be charged with using a mass communication medium to broadcast material likely to cause distress. NPHET's psychological war on the people is about 13 months past its sell by date.

I refuse to trust a government that claims suicide rates during all of this have remained relatively static.

Those that haven't jabs could catch this virulent variant and if the numbers are high enough quickly among the younger groups some will become seriously ill or worse. As for suicide from what I have seen it is down.

screamer

There’s many high risk and 60+ age group not 2nd vacced and worse they got Astra Zeneca.
I don’t see a surge with this delta virus during the summer at least what I mean is a higher number of cases won’t lead to hospitalisation. I think for the summer we’ll be ok. But we need to keep vaccinating and we need to get 70% of people fully vacced before October, or we’ll be in trouble. I’m hopeful the vaccination program will outstrip this mutation but we must all keep our distance, wear our masks and wash our hands till then.

astrofool

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yeah pity it didn't go the whole way and stop the delta variant.

So it really isn't that great after all.

They will always find a way.

You're flip flopping now, saying it's great for slowing down the variant spread, then saying it's not great because it didn't stop it, which you know is not the purpose of it (otherwise you wouldn't have called it great surely?).

crooked cockney villain

funnydoggy wrote: »

Untrue.

My dad is 66, healthy and got his second last week via the online application.

Logically speaking virtually everybody older and frailer than him should be covered by now. Some may have requested it and slipped through the cracks, but it is rare.

I saw some lunatic on Twitter having a cry that pharmacies were giving out vaccines but she wasn't herself given a vaccine yet. She's 50 odd :pac:

funnydoggy

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

Untrue.

crooked cockney villain

saabsaab wrote: »

It worked. No Brazil variant or S African variants either of major consequence. Not only that the Indian variant has been slow to get or spread here until now so more are vaccinated now. Perhaps the vaccines rollout will beat its spread?

Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

Tony needs to come out and clearly tell us why we need to care about this, otherwise he should be charged with using a mass communication medium to broadcast material likely to cause distress. NPHET's psychological war on the people is about 13 months past its sell by date.

I refuse to trust a government that claims suicide rates during all of this have remained relatively static.

crooked cockney villain

brickster69 wrote: »

5 Deaths ( all of which were backdated )

Tony and Co must be loving the HSE hack thing. For about six weeks now they have had an excuse to not tell us what they don't want us to hear- that next to nobody has died of Covid this summer.

Tyrone212

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

MHQ worked out great didn't it.

Well look at the UK. They added Bangladesh and Pakistan on the red list but left India off it, even though it was in a dire situation. Then they added India to the red list but it took 3 weeks for it to be implemented. In that time 20k passengers entered the UK from India unimpeded in a big rush.

That is how the delta variant took over so quickly there. And sadly our exposure to the UK has us weak to keeping it out, there's no MHQ between us and UK. Last I heard Delta accounted for 2.5% of cases in Germany. Almost 100% in UK. If the UK added India to the red list much quicker we'd all be laughing for the summer.

Hurrache

VonLuck wrote: »

Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I just picked up a cold a few days ago but I just read today that some of the Delta Variant symptoms are similar, like runny noses, headaches, coughs etc. Are people being advised to get tested if they have these symptoms?

I've been operating as if I have a normal cold but wondering if people with those symptoms should be getting tested and isolating.

This guy started off similar, had his two shots, and ended up testing positive
https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1406556676057088000?s=19
https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1407052670997835780?s=19