El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Really nice image of all the teams' pitstops sop far his year. Red bull consistently faster then mercedes but not by much. 2 tenths of a second on average. I presume they have excluded any major outliers.
flazio wrote: » Get your jabshttps://twitter.com/F1Media/status/1408018571297427457?s=19
Hijpo wrote: » It would be interesting to hear who made the complaints. So is it a case that these times delays will be implemented through controls or are they what the FIA want to see from teams?
vectra wrote: » Merc and Lewis are being beaten hands down, do you expect regulations to remain the same ?
AMKC wrote: » So the FIA now want to slow down pitstops from the Hungarian race in August onwards. How ridiculous is that? The whole point of an F1 potato is to get the car in and out as quick as possible and with as little time as possible wasted for the driver.https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-to-slow-down-formula-1-pitstops-from-hungarian-gp/6604158/ Are the FIA becoming a nanny organisation now or something?
Jordan 199 wrote: » As would I, but I want quality over quantity.
Glico Man wrote: » More moving chicanes or not, I would like to see more cars on the grid.
Glico Man wrote: » Aluminium is also used a lot more in engine blocks since its use in F1. Also body panels. Other road tech advancement from F1 tech would be ABS, traction control and semi-automatic gearboxes. Funnily enough I'd been reading about this topic several weeks back out of boredom and tyre technology has also made advancements due to what manufacturers would see when F1 tyres reach their limits. Dual overhead cam shafts were developed in the car industry after early F1 cars had adopted it to allow for increased airflow. You can see the advancement of suspension and KERS as well in modern cars.
flazio wrote: » I would disagree that F1 has no road relevance in terms of real world safety equipment. I can't point to any one thing in particular but I'm pretty confident that the safety tech developed after the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna and to an extent Jules Bianchi is filtering its way into the cars we drive today. Imagine Halo materials in the survival cell of your cars.
Frank Bullitt wrote: » Cars are basically one big halo as it is, with added airbags etc. Carbon Fibre is a very exotic material to find on any car, and if found it is always a very premium price. Same with the brake tech and engine modes etc. The FIA do indeed push for safety, but I would say it is a stretch to say F1 does when you break it down etc.
Hijpo wrote: » Isn't there a lump sum new teams have to pay to get in? They would want to be very committed and confident they could start as a strong midfielder eyeing championships with three years you would imagine.
Glico Man wrote: » I'd wonder if the new regulations coming in next season will we see any further interest from Manufacturers or private teams looking to come in. I remember reading something a year or two ago about Campos Racing trying to get back in. They'd a bid the same year Haas did, with the latter getting the nod. Wonder if Dave Richards and Prodrive still be interested too. More moving chicanes or not, I would like to see more cars on the grid. The budget cap will certainly make it a bit more of an attractive prospect.
quokula wrote: » The current engine formula locks anyone out of being competitive. Mercedes were working for years - reportedly since 2007 - to prepare their 2014 engine, which they have evolved ever since. There are extremely strict rules on testing and development which makes it very difficult to catch up. Honda suffered a huge amount of reputational damage and are only now finally in a position where they can compete for the first time, and they've actually already committed to pulling out of the sport. Renault suffered huge damage too, and they were very close to pulling out a couple of years ago but decided to commit to the Alpine rebrand instead. There is just zero reason for a manufacturer to enter the sport while the regulations require crazy amounts of spending on mega-complex engines, with very little chance of a return on that. It's very different to 10-20 years ago when the likes of BMW, Ford, Toyota, Peugeot and even smaller independent manufacturers like Cosworth could afford to jump in and get involved and they didn't have to guarantee success to justify the costs involved.The whole "road relevance" argument is little more than smoke and mirrors. The current cars are not in any way road relevant. The rules were formulated to serve two purposes - one was that the word "hybrid" was a good marketing term for the manufacturers, and the second was that the manufacturers most heavily involved in forcing the rules through knew it would give them a competitive advantage and create huge barriers for others to compete with them. Other series feature far more road relevant tech and have far fewer issues attracting manufacturers. Formula 1 never was, and shouldn't be, about road relevance, as it was always about building the fastest racing cars possible, which is in no way related to the daily commute. Unfortunately the current rules make it much, much more expensive to build a fast racing car - the all conquering Mercedes from the start of the hybrid era was slower around most tracks than a Minardi on 5% of the budget 10 years earlier for example. They've made up some of that lost pace now of course with ever more advanced aero, but at a cost of billions across all the teams.
AMKC wrote: » While that was bad it was no where near as bad the Lego Ferrari or the Hoover nosed Ferrari. Also don't forget the double nosed Lotus with one side shorter than the other for safety regulations. I hope we get lots of interesting designs next year and not just more of the same just with a different name pu and colour on them as we have had fir most of the last decade.
Pen Rua wrote: » Both of whom moving back to top level endurance racing with LMDh programmes in 2023, with a focus on IMSA (US based endurance), but with scope for European races (Le Mans) insofar as I understand.
pjohnson wrote: » Formula E is loosing Audi and BMW after this year.
quokula wrote: » The current engine formula locks anyone out of being competitive. Mercedes were working for years - reportedly since 2007 - to prepare their 2014 engine, which they have evolved ever since. There are extremely strict rules on testing and development which makes it very difficult to catch up. Honda suffered a huge amount of reputational damage and are only now finally in a position where they can compete for the first time, and they've actually already committed to pulling out of the sport. Renault suffered huge damage too, and they were very close to pulling out a couple of years ago but decided to commit to the Alpine rebrand instead. There is just zero reason for a manufacturer to enter the sport while the regulations require crazy amounts of spending on mega-complex engines, with very little chance of a return on that. It's very different to 10-20 years ago when the likes of BMW, Ford, Toyota, Peugeot and even smaller independent manufacturers like Cosworth could afford to jump in and get involved and they didn't have to guarantee success to justify the costs involved. The whole "road relevance" argument is little more than smoke and mirrors. The current cars are not in any way road relevant. The rules were formulated to serve two purposes - one was that the word "hybrid" was a good marketing term for the manufacturers, and the second was that the manufacturers most heavily involved in forcing the rules through knew it would give them a competitive advantage and create huge barriers for others to compete with them. Other series feature far more road relevant tech and have far fewer issues attracting manufacturers. Formula 1 never was, and shouldn't be, about road relevance, as it was always about building the fastest racing cars possible, which is in no way related to the daily commute. Unfortunately the current rules make it much, much more expensive to build a fast racing car - the all conquering Mercedes from the start of the hybrid era was slower around most tracks than a Minardi on 5% of the budget 10 years earlier for example. They've made up some of that lost pace now of course with ever more advanced aero, but at a cost of billions across all the teams.
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