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The Irish media hysteria

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Forgive me for starting a thread if one already exists - I’ve read so many different threads and posts I’ve probably missed the obvious however...

It seems everyone is waiting daily for the 6pm figures to find out the latest cases and deaths situation. It’s scary to see how every single media outlet in this country is putting all their attention on this (yes, gloom sells). Not just RTE, but the other stations and every single paper has the latest on the front page in some form or another.

Contrast this to European media - search any of the national news channels or newspapers and you’ll find its never (usually) the top story. They are over the initial panic and are I guess realise they are in for the long haul with this virus.

People here are only obsessed with three things; deaths, cases and the “R” number. I’m not a Statistician or epidemiologist but a few weeks ago when there was concern and hype raised over the R number increasing beyond 1 on the basis of 20 odd cases or so made me completely lose faith in the strategy of the government/NPHET. 10mins reading about R numbers will prove it’s not an effective measurement with low numbers yet this was peddled across the media.

The fear-mongering of the Irish media is seriously starting to affect the mental health of the population - I’m sure everyone has witnessed it on a personal level either themselves or their friends/family. If you’re get stressed I highly recommend deleting the news apps, distract yourself around 6pm when you know the figures will be released, and try enjoy the last of the long days and sunshine because if the current media narrative continues, it’s going to be a miserable winter.

Ireland needs to evolve from our sheepish culture and learn to think outside the box and make our own opinions of matters. The media need to tone down the hysteria and the government need to realise this virus is here to stay so have to start making some difficult decisions against the ultra-conservative NPHET advice to safeguard the country.

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GazzaL

Parachutes wrote: »

Ads like that have been on British television for ages now. I feel bad for children who are subjected to this fear propaganda day in day out.

15% of Irish 15 year olds can distinguish between fact and opinion: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/irish-schools-need-to-modernise-20th-century-approach-to-learning-warns-oecd-1.4516222

This translates into a large number of well-educated patsies in this country who blindly defend lockdowns and the incompetent clowns running the show even when confronted with clear facts, because the man on the tv told them to put on the green jersey.

PTH2009

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

namloc1980

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Moving on to the next tactic to keep people living in fear.

Aph2016

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

The public aren't buying into the seriousness of the virus anymore, better bring the scaremongering up a notch.

LessOutragePlz

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Unbelievable, the only people that regularly watch RTÉ are already living in fear of this "deadly" virus any person under the age of 45 knows that this virus has an extremely low chance of hospitalising them let alone killing them.

I'd love to know exactly what they are hoping to achieve with this scaremongering ad?

I guess announcing the daily covid cases and deaths isn't scaring us into submission enough already so this is the best that they could come up with.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

namloc1980 wrote: »

Moving on to the next tactic to keep people living in fear.

It's part of the official gov plan, it's been posted many times before.

Keep people in fear, anyone under 50 doesn't care, they know damn well they'll be fine.

Chivito550

Silentcorner wrote: »

It is being reported that RTE will record a profit this year....

The Government are spending in local newspapers, radio stations and national TV stations in a manner no other entity is...taxpayers money that is!!!

Will this spend by HSE/Government on Covid ads be reported? Will RTE income directly from these ads be reported? Will we see transparency? I suspected they'll bury these figures in the accounts so it's not immediately obvious.

Are HSE and RTE accounts made public?

namloc1980

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

is_that_so

namloc1980 wrote: »

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

Do you not know by now it's the COVID show?!

ShineOn7

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

Coronavirus may be stable in Ireland now, but the delta variant looms

Limitations after HSE cyberattack may be masking true prevalence of variant in State

is_that_so

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

126 cases of delta here up to 20 May. It's very low.

Hurrache

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

I mean people either want the reality, or they don't. Can't be blaming the media for putting stuff up you don't want to know.

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

Wanderer78

Hurrache wrote:

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

Know someone living in London, said its rampant there, they're expecting another lockdown

ShineOn7

Hurrache wrote: »

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

For a change

patnor1011

namloc1980 wrote: »

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

Good thing is that greek alphabet only have 24 letters so couple years from now we may be fine.
I am a little afraid that when they invent 24 variants they may start numbering them or combining so we may come with alpha-delta-theta4 variant and it suddenly look like never ending story.

MadYaker

Hurrache wrote: »

I mean people either want the reality, or they don't. Can't be blaming the media for putting stuff up you don't want to know.

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

Don’t you realise that any talk of COVID in the media in any form at all is reckless scare mongering and we should all just bury our heads in the sand and ignore what’s happening?

Wanderer78

patnor1011 wrote:

Good thing is that greek alphabet only have 24 letters so couple years from now we may be fine. I am a little afraid that when they invent 24 variants they may start numbering them or combining so we may come with alpha-delta-theta4 variant and it suddenly look like never ending story.

.... Are those mentioning media fear mongering, the ones that are actually doing the mongering!

TefalBrain

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Ridiculous. The fear mongering never stops.

[Deleted User]

TefalBrain wrote: »

Ridiculous. The fear mongering never stops.

Lets all go full on rant mode over an article from March

mcsean2163

MadYaker wrote: »

Don’t you realise that any talk of COVID in the media in any form at all is reckless scare mongering and we should all just bury our heads in the sand and ignore what’s happening?

I don't get it. The vulnerable are vaccinated and two doses stops delta.

Average age of death from covid19 is higher than life expectancy. I know quite a few people who've had it and they are back to normal etc.

It seems madness. What am I missing?

Level 42

Clickbait rubbish yere worse to read it

patnor1011

mcsean2163 wrote: »

I don't get it. The vulnerable are vaccinated and two doses stops delta.

Average age of death from covid19 is higher than life expectancy. I know quite a few people who've had it and they are back to normal etc.

It seems madness. What am I missing?

You are missing something something indiscriminate killer virus something something which spreads like wildfire something something long covid something something life will never be the same again.
And it is only 2 weeks something something maybe 2 months or years or whatever something something variants.
You can either read and watch media and cower in fear of impending doom or you can go out and talk to people and live a life as much as you can currently.

Deeper Blue

"RTE News. The truth matters."

This is the slogan for their latest ad campaign.

You couldn't make it up

AlekSmart

patnor1011 wrote: »

You are missing something something indiscriminate killer virus something something which spreads like wildfire something something long covid something something life will never be the same again.
And it is only 2 weeks something something maybe 2 months or years or whatever something something variants.
You can either read and watch media and cower in fear of impending doom or you can go out and talk to people and live a life as much as you can currently.

Ah here now....

The Central Statistics Office published it's summary of vital Statistics for 2020 on 28th May.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2020/

2020 - 2019

Births 55,959 59,796

Deaths 31,765 31,134

Marriages 9,523 20,313

Natural 24,194 28,662
Increase

The 2020 Mortatility Rate is 2% above the 2019 figure.

There were 9,356 deaths from Malignant Cancers

The Covid entry is somewhat interesting.

COVID-19 Virus Identified and Virus Unidentified:

There were 1,672 registered deaths where COVID-19 was assigned as the underlying cause of death in 2020. There were a further 167 mortality records where there was a mention of COVID-19 in the narrative of the death certificate and where the underlying cause of death was not COVID-19

As of the 7th January this year the HSE were reporting Covid Deaths of 2307.

I'm unsure whether the Irish media outlets gave the CSO's report much coverage or consideration.

patnor1011

AlekSmart wrote: »

Ah here now....

The Central Statistics Office published it's summary of vital Statistics for 2020 on 28th May.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2020/

The 2020 Mortatility Rate is 2% above the 2019 figure....

Which is pretty much in line with trend from last few years anyway. Like there was about 2% increase 2018 from 2017 numbers...

MadYaker

patnor1011 wrote: »

Which is pretty much in line with trend from last few years anyway. Like there was about 2% increase 2018 from 2017 numbers...

So then what do you reckon the numbers would look like without the restrictions and various other public health measures we’ve had to put up with? Keep in mind that these measures pretty much eliminated the flu which kills quite a few people every year.

[Deleted User]

MadYaker wrote: »

So then what do you reckon the numbers would look like without the restrictions and various other public health measures we’ve had to put up with? Keep in mind that these measures pretty much eliminated the flu which kills quite a few people every year.

No one knows for sure. But there are plenty of countries and states that didn’t lockdown hard and didn’t have huge death tolls.

Considering our young population, geographical location and longest lockdown in Europe, we actually haven’t done too well.

We were too focused on closing business instead of looking at putting solutions in place around nursing homes, hospitals and meat factories were the illness was actually spreading.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

No one knows for sure. But there are plenty of countries and states that didn’t lockdown hard and didn’t have huge death tolls.

Considering our young population, geographical location and longest lockdown in Europe, we actually haven’t done too well.

We were too focused on closing business instead of looking at putting solutions in place around nursing homes, hospitals and meat factories were the illness was actually spreading.

What we did, undoubtedly worked

Feria40

Speaking about Irish Media hype. 3 Irish Independent Covid articles in a row this morning about Travel.

1x from some Philip Ryan calling for the July 19th return of International Travel to be postponed.

1x warning the over 60's with one AZ jab not to travel.

1x advising that people with one AZ jab won't be "allowed" to travel.

You could not make this stuff up.

[Deleted User]

Feria40 wrote: »

Speaking about Irish Media hype. 3 Irish Independent Covid articles in a row this morning about Travel.

1x from some Philip Ryan calling for the July 19th return of International Travel to be postponed.

1x warning the over 60's with one AZ jab not to travel.

1x advising that people with one AZ jab won't be "allowed" to travel.

You could not make this stuff up.

1x opinion piece

2x good common sense based on what we know is happening in the UK. They will be getting the second over the next few weeks