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The Delta variant

amandstu

How might this play out?

Apparently cases in England may be doubling every 4.5 days and resultant hospitalizations are said to be possibly between 2 and 3 times more likely that with the Alpha variant.

Only 1% prevalence here at the moment seemingly.

Back of envelope modeling in my sitting room is not reassuring and I am not near to getting my second AstraZeneca jab yet( so 30% protected against symptomatic disease?)

EDIT: Have been corrected in this thread that parts of England (not England as a whole) had cases doubling every 4.5 days

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[Deleted User]

Aegir wrote: »

So where does this leave those that have had the Jansen vaccine?

Unloved.

Data will be harder to find.

Im sure its around the 95% ballpark too.

It was effective against SA strain.

The british love AZ so will always give it the benefit of the doubt and analyse AZ data properly.

The rest of europe are trying to shove it under a bus with mixing and matching which may be a tad premature.

Jinglejangle69

screamer wrote: »

And that’s great, but we need more people vaccinated or it will spread and put people in hospital. We’ve got the summer to catch up and get a critical mass vaccinated, I hope supply chains keep delivering and people stay getting vaccinated.

How many will it put in hospital?

niallo27

saabsaab wrote: »

What is incorrect?

What variant has dodged the vaccine.

screamer

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

But after one does it just means they may get it with mild symptoms but won't end up in hospital or dying.

This is the fact most people are unaware of.

They are still protected against serious illness.

And that’s great, but we need more people vaccinated or it will spread and put people in hospital. We’ve got the summer to catch up and get a critical mass vaccinated, I hope supply chains keep delivering and people stay getting vaccinated.

saabsaab

niallo27 wrote: »

A dose of honesty. Did you read their latest headline.

Covid-19 variants increasing ability to dodge vaccines - Scally

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0614/1227925-ireland-covid/

What is incorrect?

[Deleted User]

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

But after one does it just means they may get it with mild symptoms but won't end up in hospital or dying.

This is the fact most people are unaware of.

They are still protected against serious illness.

There are important caveats
Much of the studying is being done in a still not normal fully open society and 2,there's still not enough information

https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1404439262246887428?s=20

Jinglejangle69

niallo27 wrote: »

A dose of honesty. Did you read their latest headline.

Covid-19 variants increasing ability to dodge vaccines - Scally

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0614/1227925-ireland-covid/

How does he get away with telling complete lies???

niallo27

saabsaab wrote: »

It's a race between the variants and the vaccines roll out.

No it's not, the vulnerable are vaccinated. Who are we actually protecting from getting sick now.

niallo27

Tyrone212 wrote: »

People go overboard on the RTE are scare mongering just because everything isn't sunshine and lollipops 24 7. The newly released efficacy data after 2 doses is great and will ease any long term worries however this variant is much much more transmissible and a large section of 60 years olds only have 1 dose and aren't as protected as we would like.

Just over 25% of the adult population are fully vaccinated. Its over 50% in the UK and they've had to put the breaks on. Numbers are currently low in ireland and that's great but look how quickly the Kent variant took over at the end of last year. Until second doses increase dramatically we're vulnerable to another surge.

We're currently in a good position but that could change quickly if delta takes hold until more are vaccinated. Thats the truth. RTE reporting that this variant is more transmissible doesn't make them scare mongerers, its simply just a fact being reported on.

A dose of honesty instantly makes you a doom monger or you want another lock down etc from a large amount on here. Its just nonsense.

A dose of honesty. Did you read their latest headline.

Covid-19 variants increasing ability to dodge vaccines - Scally

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0614/1227925-ireland-covid/

wadacrack

Tyrone212 wrote: »

People go overboard on the RTE are scare mongering just because everything isn't sunshine and lollipops 24 7. The newly released efficacy data after 2 doses is great and will ease any long term worries however this variant is much much more transmissible and a large section of 60 years olds only have 1 dose and aren't as protected as we would like.

Just over 25% of the adult population are fully vaccinated. Its over 50% in the UK and they've had to put the breaks on. Numbers are currently low in ireland and that's great but look how quickly the Kent variant took over at the end of last year. Until second doses increase dramatically we're vulnerable to another surge.

We're currently in a good position but that could change quickly if delta takes hold until more are vaccinated. Thats the truth. RTE reporting that this variant is more transmissible doesn't make them scare mongerers, its simply just a fact being reported on.

A dose of honesty instantly makes you a doom monger or you want another lock down etc from a large amount on here. Its just nonsense.

It seem any bit of bad news , alot of posters in here struggle to accept it.
No one loves the doom and gloom desite some on here might claim.

Anyway good news today about the cases and new evidence on the vaccines. Some posters might want to see a cautious approach until more have two doses others a more aggressive one. People should just respect both viewpoints.

Jinglejangle69

Tyrone212 wrote: »

People go overboard on the RTE are scare mongering just because everything isn't sunshine and lollipops 24 7. The newly released efficacy data after 2 doses is great and will ease any long term worries however this variant is much much more transmissible and a large section of 60 years olds only have 1 dose and aren't as protected as we would like.

Just over 25% of the adult population are fully vaccinated. Its over 50% in the UK and they've had to put the breaks on. Numbers are currently low in ireland and that's great but look how quickly the Kent variant took over at the end of last year. Until second doses increase dramatically we're vulnerable to another surge.

We're currently in a good position but that could change quickly if delta takes hold until more are vaccinated. Thats the truth. RTE reporting that this variant is more transmissible doesn't make them scare mongerers, its simply just a fact being reported on.

A dose of honesty instantly makes you a doom monger or you want another lock down etc from a large amount on here. Its just nonsense.

But after one dose it just means they may get it with mild symptoms but won't end up in hospital or dying.

This is the fact most people are unaware of.

They are still protected against serious illness.

saabsaab

It's a race between the variants and the vaccines roll out.

[Deleted User]

Marine Layer wrote: »

Watching ch4 news there some brilliant news
Latest data from PHE
2 jabs AstraZeneca 92% effective against hospitalisation
2 jabs Pfizer 96% effective against hospitalisation

So that's a knockout folks

Edit Snap I see the tweet above

Brilliant news.

Hopefully this changes the narrative that AZ is utterly useless for every person taking it and Pfzier is an unpeneterabal shield for every person taking it.

Your underlying health still has to be maintained whatever vaccine you get.

Vaccines are like insurance policies.

Pfzier is a slightly better policy (96%) but most would settle for (92%) AZ.

Whats more important from this data is to get protected asap than quibbling over brands. Either will in all liklihood save you from bad outcome.

[Deleted User]

Watching ch4 news there some brilliant news
Latest data from PHE
2 jabs AstraZeneca 92% effective against hospitalisation
2 jabs Pfizer 96% effective against hospitalisation

So that's a knockout folks

Edit Snap I see the tweet above

Tyrone212

People go overboard on the RTE are scare mongering just because everything isn't sunshine and lollipops 24 7. The newly released efficacy data after 2 doses is great and will ease any long term worries however this variant is much much more transmissible and a large section of 60 years olds only have 1 dose and aren't as protected as we would like.

Just over 25% of the adult population are fully vaccinated. Its over 50% in the UK and they've had to put the breaks on. Numbers are currently low in ireland and that's great but look how quickly the Kent variant took over at the end of last year. Until second doses increase dramatically we're vulnerable to another surge.

We're currently in a good position but that could change quickly if delta takes hold until more are vaccinated. Thats the truth. RTE reporting that this variant is more transmissible doesn't make them scare mongerers, its simply just a fact being reported on.

A dose of honesty instantly makes you a doom monger or you want another lock down etc from a large amount on here. Its just nonsense.

wadacrack

Here is more information on the vaccines.

One dose quite effective after 21 days.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1404494080244162562

[Deleted User]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-hospitalisation-delta-variant-b1865685.html

Unvaccinated twice as likely to be hospitalised with Delta than Alpha.

Pfzier two doses 96% protection from hospitalisation from delta.

AZ two doses 92% protection from hospitalisation from delta.

AZ protection may rise as slower to reach optimal protection.

[Deleted User]

hmmm wrote: »

Someone go tell RTE that the vaccines are highly effective (still).

There's no news like bad news. A positive development like that will inevitably get buried. Baseless speculation about clogged hospitals is order of the day, in conjunction with advocating delay of reopening "just in case because you never know". As if indoor hospitality and the airline industry haven't been burnt enough already. Arra 'tis grand shure, the "I'm still on a full wage so let them eat cake" mentality prevails in Montrose.

Micky 32

Got my text for my second dose on Thursday. Couldn’t come sooner:pac:

Polar101

hmmm wrote: »

Someone go tell RTE that the vaccines are highly effective (still).

Upcoming headline: "8 out of 100 chance of hospitalization"

:P

Anyway, that's reassuring to hear.

[Deleted User]

So where does this leave those that have had the Jansen vaccine?

Turtwig

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If that's true its great news.

Chris Whitty just referenced it in his presentation.

Jinglejangle69

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1404484222358900737

Like people here and anyone with sense said all along.

The media, especially RTE need to be called up on all this variant scaremongering.

Vicxas

We just need to get the finger out and get as many vaccinated as possible before autumn when we all head back indoors.

In a welcome sight i seen my local MVC had a massive queue outside it waiting to go in. Hoping it was due to a large number of vaccines available and not incompetence

wadacrack

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/1404484812488990721

Good news. Schools closing seem to have helped us here too it seems.

hmmm

Someone go tell RTE that the vaccines are highly effective (still).

PTH2009

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/1404484812488990721

Very welcoming news

landofthetree

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If that's true its great news.

https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/1404484812488990721

El_Duderino 09

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1404484222358900737

If that's true its great news.

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1404484222358900737