glasso wrote: » trying to continue deny that that was a great match set is a bit of a joke at this stage.
dominatinMC wrote: » Look, maybe he has pushed the boundaries, and gotten every last ounce out of himself but there is no denying it is questionable.
dominatinMC wrote: » I've long had my suspicions about the Big 3, but Djokovic to me seems most likely. The stamina, recovery, lack of injuries, there is just something incredulous about it. Look, maybe he has pushed the boundaries, and gotten every last ounce out of himself but there is no denying it is questionable. For instance, Djokovic is only a year younger than Nadal, yet he looked like (and played like) he could go for another 4 hours. Nadal looked (and played like) his age. And before anyone says it, Djokovics playstyle is every bit as gruelling as Nadals.
dominatinMC wrote: » Surely the answer to that is obvious? Doping allows you to recover faster, train harder for longer, allowing you to perfect your technique over many hours without suffering injuries. But I do agree that the Big3 would rule regardless of doping or not.
Slashermcguirk wrote: » Do explain how doping would give you better technique on serve, forehand, backhand, volley, return etc??? Of course it would give you more stamina etc but pick up a tennis racket and try and get the technique those top 3 players have. Good luck with that. I stand over that if every player did dope or didn’t, those top 3 would win regardless because they are simply much better tennis players
Girly Gal wrote: » Justin Gatlin is a proven drugs cheat, Djokovic, Nadal or Federer haven't as yet been proven to dope, so throwing out these accusations every time they play is only trying to blacken their name and downgrade their achievements. Also 10 mins after an extraordinary match isn't the time to be talking about, let people enjoy the wonderful tennis that was played tonight, you can talk about doping in a few days time when the tournament is over and everyone has had time to take it all in.
Chivito550 wrote: » You have no understanding of doping if you believe what you have just posted.
TheRiverman wrote: » Thankfully the men's game still gives us magical matches from well known star players of the sport. The women's game is a has been a shambles for some time exemplified by tomorrow's final of who? v your one.
Chivito550 wrote: » If Justin Gatlin wins a gold medal in Tokyo is that the time to talk about doping or should it be left to another time? There's NEVER a good time to talk about doping, but it's a discussion that needs to be had, and one that doesn't happen even remotely enough in tennis. Remember, a question is not an accusation.
dominatinMC wrote: » Whoah, calm down! It's just an opinion, but a somewhat informed one I'd like to think. And FWIW if you do go back through this thread, you will see I was one of the only ones who predicted a Djokovic win.
josip wrote: » Jimmy Connors 109 I hope he doesn't
Slashermcguirk wrote: » I would think all the players are drug tested regularly. To be honest regardless the top 3 would win anyway because they are quite simply better tennis players! In a sport like cycling or long distance running it’s pure stamina, in tennis a drug won’t make you a better tennis player. Sure you could build stamina but these guys are just unbelievably good tennis players. You could pump every other player up, they still won’t be as good
dominatinMC wrote: » Yep, getting harder to argue against that now. He will inevitibly get #19 on Sunday, then will win Wimbledon to get to #20. Combined with his weeks at #1, H2H records, and M1000 records, there's not much left to be said.
mzungu wrote: » Tsitsipas is really going to need his A game on Sunday. For his sake, in his first GS Final, I hope he makes a match of it.
Girly Gal wrote: » Extraordinary match, 2 extraordinary players, wasn't expecting a conversation about doping on here after that magnificent spectacle. There's a time and a place for that, not tonight, let people enjoy the match for what it was a magnificent match between 2 of the greatest players ever.
HeidiHeidi wrote: » And yet more wild predictions, stated with absolute certainty! Is there no room in yer heads for the odd upset - like tonight, for instance?? This is sport, after all..... If I had nothing better to do tomorrow I'd go back through this thread (even only since I joined it) and pick out all the bald, incontrovertible, absolute, but wildly incorrect statements and predictions that were made. But thankfully there's a boat with my name on it going out racing, so I do have something far better to do!
Slashermcguirk wrote: » Why do so many of the players like him then? Murray, Wawrinka, Thiem, Zverev, Medvedev, Tsitsipas etc. Have heard numerous top players he the most approachable of the big 3 players off court. Even watch Medvedev runner up speech in Australia. I would take the word of other players, Murray and Wawrinka say he is a top bloke off court
Sandor Clegane wrote: » I think it's safer to assume any top level, elite athlete is on them tbh, Id say the same in any sport Tennis being no different, wasn't Sharapova caught a while back? As I said there isn't a sport it's not rampant in and I find it incredibly hard to accept the top highest paid guys wouldn't take advantage of them.
Rob2D wrote: » And in the end it fizzles out. A few hype games in the 3rd and that was it. And so the Nadal fans go to sit with the 2019 Fed fans. At least Rog took it to match points..... So it looks like the slav train may be unstoppable again this year. Hard to see him not winning in London.
yerwanthere123 wrote: » Yep, the desperation to be liked is so off-putting. Had he just accepted from the off that he'd never be as popular as Federer and Nadal and was just himself I think he'd probably be more popular than he is. And that was before his rogue superspreader event in Serbia.. Hoping for a Tsitsipas win on Sunday! :pac: