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High risk/cohort 7 - GP doesn't seem too interested

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Hi,

I'm someone (30's) with a BMI between 35 and 40 and from what I can see I'm high risk and should be able to get the vaccine right now.

But...when I called my GP about it I was told:

*They aren't doing any more first doses
*They weren't vaccinating people in cohort 7
*People with BMI between 35 and 40 weren't going in cohort 7 unless they had another medical issue
*they had no way of putting me forward to get vaccinated

What they said about cohorts seems to disagree with what it clearly says on the HSE website, am I reading this correctly?

Have any of you in a similar position gotten the vaccine?
If you did/have an appointment and it was in a vaccination centre (not GP office) can you tell me what the procedure was?

The GP office is generally a bit useless and past experience tells me that if I want a problem solved I'm going to have to show them the procedure in black and white...

Thanks.

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iamwhoiam

Daughter is cohort 7 and rang GP weeks ago to be on a list . She heard nothing from him ( she was vaccinated via consultant in the meantime ) . Today we heard he vaccinated healthy young people under 30 yesterday . She still got no call from him

fun loving criminal

I have someone in my house travelling abroad. On their return they have to self isolate, so they are at an increased risk of having covid.

I am high risk and they will be self isolating in the same house as me. And HSE are still dragging their heels with cohort 7.

ShineOn7

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Some GPs quite simply were not up to this

Or were arsed to do it

And this is the crux of it all I feel

As bad as the HSE messed up (this should have been in place before the hack), many GPs should be reported to the Medical Council for willful negligence

iamwhoiam

Triangle wrote: »

It's not 100% the GPs fault. They have middle aged family too that just don't follow the news I. E. Didn't register them for the vaccine.

Ah fair enough . Seems to have cracks all right but hopefully the cracks can be filled if this ever happens again or indeed for eventual boosters

Triangle

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Wow. Over 65’s not done until is very upsetting for them .Some GPs quite simply were not up to this . I know one GP in a large urban estate with no computer or IT system working with paper files in a cupboard !! His patients were delayed by weeks and even months until called .

It's not 100% the GPs fault. They have middle aged family too that just don't follow the news I. E. Didn't register them for the vaccine.

iamwhoiam

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, the problem all along was who do you count and who has the information as well as the uncertainty about who was taking care of the groups. It won't or shouldn't be an issue in the future now that they have been quantified.

Yes As I say hindsight should be used wisely and faults corrected and lessons learned .

iamwhoiam

Triangle wrote: »

It's not that simple. I know of a couple of over 65s in rural areas that have just got their vaccines because their GPS are inept.
People that think the data is just there and accessible don't understand databases, IT and data validation.
Going the paper route is even worse.
You could throw thousands of people at the issue and still have issues afterwards.

I get the frustration people have, especially with the vaccines being rolled out, but it really is complicated for the HSE and they are doing their best (especially after having their IT systems taken offline)

Wow. Over 65’s not done until is very upsetting for them .Some GPs quite simply were not up to this . I know one GP in a large urban estate with no computer or IT system working with paper files in a cupboard !! His patients were delayed by weeks and even months until called .

Triangle

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Hope to ! !!! Mother of god could they be any less proactive .
Close the MCVs appointments for everyone else for a few days , let the GPs send printed lists to the MCVs . Tell all in the cohort 7 to turn up in order of surname ( A-G one day etc ) and register and get them done and dusted. Bring in the army if necessary and get it sorted
With a bit of planning and cop on it could be done in days
By the time the HSE hope to have a plan everyone will be done by age anyone

It's not that simple. I know of a couple of over 65s in rural areas that have just got their vaccines because their GPS are inept.
People that think the data is just there and accessible don't understand databases, IT and data validation.
Going the paper route is even worse.
You could throw thousands of people at the issue and still have issues afterwards.

I get the frustration people have, especially with the vaccines being rolled out, but it really is complicated for the HSE and they are doing their best (especially after having their IT systems taken offline)

is_that_so

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Without any any official stats I am presuming the cohort is much reduced now anyway . Only ones left are under 40 so guessing about half to one third left to do. So they have to be seen to do something and allow the media pick up on a “ plan “
Truth be told it was a shambles and should be examined so it wont happen if this ever happens again . If they did that at very least it would be a help and show they have grasped that it was a mess

Well, the problem all along was who do you count and who has the information as well as the uncertainty about who was taking care of the groups. It won't or shouldn't be an issue in the future now that they have been quantified.

iamwhoiam

is_that_so wrote: »

The main aim is to get as many people done as possible as quickly as possible. Stopping the process will not do that. They say they have a pathway that was disrupted by the attack and who knows how far advanced that was. If it is really 10 days we will start to see signs of that quickly enough. In the meantime some of that group are being done by age.

Without any any official stats I am presuming the cohort is much reduced now anyway . Only ones left are under 40 so guessing about half to one third left to do. So they have to be seen to do something and allow the media pick up on a “ plan “
Truth be told it was a shambles and should be examined so it wont happen if this ever happens again . If they did that at very least it would be a help and show they have grasped that it was a mess

I feel quite passionate about this because ineffectivness bothers me . Without any doubt it should have been addressed months before and set in motion and GPs asked to compile lists etc . For next time ( if there is ever a next time) it needs planning . Hindsight is a great thing and we should all learn from hindsight I think

is_that_so

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Hope to ! !!! Mother of god could they be any less proactive .
Close the MCVs appointments for everyone else for a few days , let the GPs send printed lists to the MCVs . Tell all in the cohort 7 to turn up in order of surname ( A-G one day etc ) and register and get them done and dusted. Bring in the army if necessary and get it sorted
With a bit of planning and cop on it could be done in days
By the time the HSE hope to have a plan everyone will be done by age anyone

The main aim is to get as many people done as possible as quickly as possible. Stopping the process will not do that. They say they have a pathway that was disrupted by the attack and who knows how far advanced that was. If it is really 10 days we will start to see signs of that quickly enough. In the meantime some of that group are being done by age.

iamwhoiam

Turtwig wrote: »

Stop all other vaccinations for everyone else? Are you being serious?

Yes . Cohort 7 were in a group above them anyway . They were ear marked to be done before them from the time the rollout was announced .
A few days I am talking about not months ! So a 40 year old waits a week maybe while high risk peole are done , I cant see the outrage really .

Turtwig

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Close the MCVs appointments for everyone else for a few days , let the GPs send printed lists to the MCVs .

Stop all other vaccinations for everyone else? Are you being serious?

iamwhoiam

odyssey06 wrote: »

HSE hopes for Cohort 7 solution within ten days as high risk patients still waiting for vaccines

https://www.thejournal.ie/vaccine-cohort-7-5463185-Jun2021/

Hope to ! !!! Mother of god could they be any less proactive .
Close the MCVs appointments for everyone else for a few days , let the GPs send printed lists to the MCVs . Tell all in the cohort 7 to turn up in order of surname ( A-G one day etc ) and register and get them done and dusted. Bring in the army if necessary and get it sorted
With a bit of planning and cop on it could be done in days
By the time the HSE hope to have a plan everyone will be done by age anyone

odyssey06

HSE hopes for Cohort 7 solution within ten days as high risk patients still waiting for vaccines

https://www.thejournal.ie/vaccine-cohort-7-5463185-Jun2021/

[Deleted User]

Sconsey wrote: »

My advice for what it is worth, you will have to be pro-active. Try your GP first, if you do not get any joy then contact your consultant (if you have one). It should not have to be like this but unfortunately the group 7 prioritisation plan appears to have left a lot of people behind.

Ah thanks,I actually got done by GP thankfully
A day or 2 afterwards that surgery stopped doing them
I'm still agitating for cohort 7 though
The Ray of light on the matter is all adult cohorts will finally be done via the portal by September probably
Their plight still needs to be highlighted as this set up can't be allowed to happen next year when we all need booster shots

Sconsey

Marine Layer wrote: »

People with the condition I have in cohort 7 were told to shield last year and were vaccinated in NI and GB in January this year as a priority

I'm wondering what the difference is in the Republic? Same condition ignored now
Beggars belief

My advice for what it is worth, you will have to be pro-active. Try your GP first, if you do not get any joy then contact your consultant (if you have one). It should not have to be like this but unfortunately the group 7 prioritisation plan appears to have left a lot of people behind.

Nigel Fairservice

Marine Layer wrote: »

People with the condition I have in cohort 7 were told to shield last year and were vaccinated in NI and GB in January this year as a priority

I'm wondering what the difference is in the Republic? Same condition ignored now
Beggars belief

It's a strange one. I heard of many people with my condition being vaccinated weeks before I was through their consultants. My consultant at my last hospital appointment asked me why I wasn't vaccinated

I didn't even know what to say to them because I was so confused about the whole thing. I was under the impression they would have contacted me if they felt I qualified for early vaccination. The hospital said they would organise my vaccination. My GP ended up doing it a few days later (I don't know if he received any prompting from the hospital).

[Deleted User]

People with the condition I have in cohort 7 were told to shield last year and were vaccinated in NI and GB in January this year as a priority

I'm wondering what the difference is in the Republic? Same condition ignored now
Beggars belief

Nigel Fairservice

My younger sister got vaccinated recently too by our GP. She has a chronic condition and is a primary school teacher so has an increased risk of potential exposure to Covid 19. In fairness to our family GP he got the 3 of us vaccinated before our age cohorts. We all have chronic conditions so it was about the only benefit of being half crocked!. Getting through to our GP in the first place was the hardest part. It's amazing to see the troubles others are having.

Unrealistic

is_that_so wrote: »

I confess I'm baffled as to why the risk of COVID has suddenly shot up for these groups or is this just a fairness thing?

This question was answered politely the first time you asked it. That you're now asking it a third time suggests you're just trolling.

is_that_so wrote: »

FYI on the HSE with this programme they do not respond to anything about how it is run and only tell people when they have supplies to vaccinate.

That is not true, as I have pointed out to you already. They have gone into detail at the regular NPHET briefings in answer to questions from journalists; including about Cohort 7.

iamwhoiam

Marine Layer wrote: »

It hasn't shot up
Its remained the same
Higher than people being otherwise vaccinated by age
Higher and ignored

Yes , deemed high risk by NPHET and put in a higher priority for a very good reason . Supposed to be done after 6 and before 8/9/10 etc
But then abandoned and left to their own devices when push came to shove
No longer it seems a priority but the pretence still there that they are . It has caused upset and anxiety in those who deserved much better and its those who were already anxious and afraid . That in my opinion is unforgivable because they simply gave no reassurance or advice or help to a vulnerable group who needed it

[Deleted User]

is_that_so wrote: »

The only vaccines being delayed are AZ, as usual and J&J, neither of which you'd be likely to be getting anyway. Let's not overlook the GPs downing tools on this for whatever reason.
I confess I'm baffled as to why the risk of COVID has suddenly shot up for these groups or is this just a fairness thing?

FYI on the HSE with this programme they do not respond to anything about how it is run and only tell people when they have supplies to vaccinate.

It hasn't shot up
Its remained the same
Higher than people being otherwise vaccinated by age
Higher and ignored

is_that_so

Trish_MB wrote: »

Thats why I said "huge part", not entirely Cohort 7. Days back I felt exactly as under 30s now, still do as possibility of registration doesn't guarantee I'll be jabbed in next 3-4 weeks as people say a lot they hear nothing after 3 weeks, also deliveries of vaccines are delayed. My anger is still massive as none of us, cohort 4 or 7, no matter the age, should wait. I'm active around Twitter about case and it's going to continue even if I can register as many of my friends under 30 is still ignored - HSE doesn't reply to questions about cohort 7 at all at this point.

Just mention a little light for some of us ahead in tunnel.

The only vaccines being delayed are AZ, as usual and J&J, neither of which you'd be likely to be getting anyway. Let's not overlook the GPs downing tools on this for whatever reason.
I confess I'm baffled as to why the risk of COVID has suddenly shot up for these groups or is this just a fairness thing?

FYI on the HSE with this programme they do not respond to anything about how it is run and only tell people when they have supplies to vaccinate.

Trish_MB

ShineOn7 wrote: »

And for the under 30s in Cohort 7 still being ignored by their GPs and the HSE?

They'll have to cocoon while a country starts to fully open up, even though they've now been cocooning for 15 or so months

Not having a pop at you Trish, it's Donnelly/HSE/Reid's ignorance to Cohort 7 that's jaw dropping

Thats why I said "huge part", not entirely Cohort 7. Days back I felt exactly as under 30s now, still do as possibility of registration doesn't guarantee I'll be jabbed in next 3-4 weeks as people say a lot they hear nothing after 3 weeks, also deliveries of vaccines are delayed. My anger is still massive as none of us, cohort 4 or 7, no matter the age, should wait. I'm active around Twitter about case and it's going to continue even if I can register as many of my friends under 30 is still ignored - HSE doesn't reply to questions about cohort 7 at all at this point.

Just mention a little light for some of us ahead in tunnel.

fun loving criminal

Trish_MB wrote: »

It would be insane relief for huge part of Cohort 7!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

I said this somewhere else. Whatever they are doing, it's all for appearance, to make it look like they are doing something and going down in age, quickly.

The 40-49 year olds were done in two blocks with registration 2 weeks apart. If they tried that separation of the 30-39 year olds, it brings the 30-34 year olds to the last day of June for first registration. Can't be having that now.

Happydays2020

ShineOn7 wrote: »

And for the under 30s in Cohort 7 still being ignored by their GPs and the HSE?

They'll have to cocoon while a country starts to fully open up, even though they've now been cocooning for 15 or so months

Not having a pop at you Trish, it's Donnelly/HSE/Reid's ignorance to Cohort 7 that's jaw dropping

If you put "Cohort 7" into Google News the most recent article is over 4 weeks old. There should have been a system in place long before the hack

https://twitter.com/SusanMcGalway/status/1402590627548872707

It is wilful neglect.

ShineOn7

Trish_MB wrote: »

It would be insane relief for huge part of Cohort 7!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

And for the under 30s in Cohort 7 still being ignored by their GPs and the HSE?

They'll have to cocoon while a country starts to fully open up, even though they've now been cocooning for 15 or so months

Not having a pop at you Trish, it's Donnelly/HSE/Reid's ignorance to Cohort 7 that's jaw dropping

If you put "Cohort 7" into Google News the most recent article is over 4 weeks old. There should have been a system in place long before the hack

https://twitter.com/SusanMcGalway/status/1402590627548872707

Trish_MB

It would be insane relief for huge part of Cohort 7!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

ShineOn7

https://twitter.com/SarahJaneVlogs/status/1402565289179557891